Girard b-25 awning motor

[Eric Maclean]

Carl
In the Girard G2000 manual there is reference to motors with no manual provisions and a procedures for removal of the motor in section II a of motor removal.
https://www.floridaautomatedshade.com/default.asp
Eric

[Carl Boger]

Thanks Eric

I read that section several times as well as the motor removal for Beaver coaches.  The plan right now is to get the motor out and prepped for the new motor.  See if there are any motor numbers on it to cross reference and then order a new motor.  They cost to much for me to just order one blind.  Want to match the motor up with the correct size, amps, and number of wires.  So far Girard has been pretty guarded with their information.

[Carl Boger]

To update everyone, Per Girard " So an awning motor for that particular awning is the same as a G-2000 Awning"       Part #97GA45M-50     Retail Cost $941.00

[Eric Maclean]

Carl
I'd check to see if Florida awning can supply that motor at half the price.
https://www.floridaautomatedshade.com/default.asp
I'd give them a call at 1 866-518-1909
Eric

[Carl Boger]

Thanks Eric,

Does anyone know if a 97DM45M-50 would fit?  I might be able to get that motor cheaper. 

I did learn  the coding is     DM                  45                  M                  40                  50
                                    Tubular              Tube           Material             Rated            Rotates
                                     Motor             Diameter           Type             Torque            Speed



In case someone in the future is trying to cross reference a motor that will fit.

[Fred Brooks]

   Carl, Just so long you can verify it is a "stepping motor" and an amperage sensing motor. It "counts the turns" on the way out so it knows when to stop and senses increased amperage when closing so the motor shuts off just as the leading edge closes against the case. That is what those little alan key hex openings are for to fine tune the installation.

[Carl Boger]

Thanks Fred,

  I am going to try to email FAS.  Whoever I was talking to was sure it could be matched up, but needed more information.  She said that a 45mm tube was about 1 3/4 inches.  (1.772) and that she thought it should be bigger than that.  I don't have mine out yet so can anyone advise if that is the correct size motor.

[Carl Boger]

Ok I ordered the 97DM45M-50 motor.  I was told it was same motor as the 97GA45M-50 from a individual at Girard.  It was about 2/3 the price as ordering it directly from Girard and is brand new also. 

Hopefully all this information is correct.  Should be here next Friday so hopefully I will get it installed soon after that.

[Eric Maclean]

Sounds good let us know how you make out with the job
Eric

[Jerry Pattison]

Carl, shortly after purchasing our 1998 Marquis, we were at a Beaver rally on the side of Mt. Bachelor in Bend.  My neighbor had the Girard service manager (then Major Pogue).  I asked what was going on, and the owner said his awning had extended while driving down the highway!  He stopped and had to dis-assemble the awning, putting the arms, etc., on the floor of the coach until he could get it repaired.  The problem was  the motor!  His coach was also a 1998.  I panicked and asked Major if my awning had that same motor, and he replied "yes".  I asked if he could replace it, and he replied "yes".  And, he did so there on the slopes of the mountain.  So, for sure, those older awnings can certainly extend on their own.  Also, there are more bolts to loosen to get  the awning out far enough to get access to the motor.  Yes, there are some just over the passenger seat, but also some inside a cabinet further back in the living room.  Gotta take an access panel off to get to them.  Whatever you do, be very careful not to let the arms release on you...they can be deadly!!  Good luck!!

[Carl Boger]

Thanks Jerry

I have already located the right end and middle bolts.  It looks like I only need to move the awning about 1/8 of a inch to get the screws out of the end plate, and then I should be able to slide the motor out after taking off the end bracket and unscrewing the 2 mounting bolts.  Luckily for me my old motor is still working enough to move the awning out under its own power.  Now I just have to wait for the motor, I have already received a notice that it will be later than scheduled due to a mechanical failure, whatever that means.

[Carl Boger]

To follow up on this post, I finally got the new motor in last night and everything is working as it should.  I was able to loosen only the 4 nuts on the right/motor end of awning and get the awning to pull it out enough to get the old motor out.

When I pulled it out, it had obviously been replaced before as it was a SIMU - DMI550.12HU  motor instead of a Girard.  I found it for sale for just Under 375.00 on line.  The date code on it was 05 so it was working longer than the original Girard was.  While it was a few inches longer than the Girard it had been working and fit fine so if you need a replacement this might work fine for you.  New From Girard it is $940.00 plus tax and shipping.  I got one for Under 700.00 with tax and shipping and I am still happy with my decision, but would probably have gone the 375.00 route had I know it would fit.

When pulling the old motor out there is still some tension on the roller so we had to clamp it to the housing to keep the fabric taunt.  Then it was out with the old motor in with the new, pull the new wires through with the old and wire it all up.  The limit switches have to be set, but once you get within the limits it is easy to keep turning until you reach where you want it to stop in and out.

I still would not want to extend the awning to wait on a new motor after pulling the old one out, but the above motor worked in my MH for 16ish years if anyone needs a replacement for a B150 or a G2000.

I was nervous the the the Girard unit may not fit, but it did and hopefully I will not need to do this again anytime soon.