Main slide out issue - 2002 Patriot Thunder 455

[Pierce LeFevre Jr]

Hello Steve,
Thanks for jumping in with Fred and Joel.  All you guys have been very helpful.  You were of course correct Steve...I was being a dumb dumb concerning the first distribution block I saw.  With 8 hoses it was in fact the one for the 4 levelers.  Closer inspection slightly aft and inboard of that levelers block revealed another block with solenoids mounted a little higher up and harder to see. (pic attached). It has in/out connections leading back to the same cylindrical reservoir as the levelers block and one outlet hose that comes out of it and heads toward the front living room.  Has to be it!  So this coach does appear to have the shared pump and reservoir configuration for levelers and Living room slideout mentioned.
Next step is to figure out exactly what to turn on this block.  So I've got a nut on the end of two solenoids with those solenoids running horizontal to the ground and the nuts facing the front of the coach.  Also appears to be a single nut facing downward (toward the ground) on the other end of the block nearest the outlet hose exiting that end of the block that heads toward the living room.
Joel was sharp to notice and pointed out an earlier post error in that all of this does sit aft of the battery compartment, not forward.

[Joel Ashley]

“Has to be it!”  Follow that hose up front, Pierce, and be sure.  Those two don’t look exactly like ours or the ones in the illustrations.  Admittedly they may be an earlier version.  Is there more than one slideout?  Only two solenoids implies that… one in, one out per slide room.

Joel

[Pierce LeFevre Jr]

Hey Joel,
Rear bedroom slide is electric, so yes it's just the one living room slide that's got the one single hydraulic cylinder moving it.  Believe it's yes also that our setups are totally different.  With shared reservoir tank and pump, but separate solenoid block controllers for levelers vs. living room slide, I believe I'm down to simply finding out which SMC Solenoid block controller I have for the living room and securing technical data/instructions on its operation.  I did notice on another photo I've attached here markings just above the 2 solenoids. ("E" and "R"). Assuming those stand for Extend and Retract, but again, will pursue finding tech. data on exactly what I have and how to control its hydraulic flow.  i.e. to extend would one just loosen the "E" solenoid nut, that nut and the nut on the other end of the block, both "E" and "R" nuts simultaneously with or without nut on the other end, etc.
Unfortunately, didn't see any model numbers stamped on or a sticker on this old unit giving a model number.  That would have made it way to easy to find its tech manual. I contacted SMC requesting an email address so that I could send a picture in hopes they would know what I have.  So we'll see if any response/assistance comes from that.  And maybe someone will happen upon this post that generally knows this solenoid block and how it works to advise what I need to know.

[Pierce LeFevre Jr]

Believe I discovered my Living room slide solenoid valve pressure cannot be relieved there manually.  WHW website had link button off of main page for "Emergency Slide-out retraction".  Drilled into "Valve information", then subheading "Identification", to bulletin paper MP849999.  Very end of that 2 pager said "Old Style HEX shaped solenoids valves have no manual valve release".  They are HEX shaped on my rig.  Fred's advice to Jack up the slide slightly to clear those toothed roller gears that you identified by picture Joel might be only way of getting it extended.  Plan to confirm this with HWH tech support if possible tomorrow or see what else they might suggest.  Took some time trying to chase down valve info. with SMC Corp. since mentioned that they built the valve, with no luck.  Appears all the info. concerning the leveling and Slide-outs, including valves, does lie with HWH Corp. 

[Eric Maclean]

Pierce
I think what you are looking at is an RVA slide manifold valve
This is a link to an RVA manifold for reference

https://www.rvajack.com/J0914-34-01-RVA-Hydraulic-Slide-Out-Valve-Body-Manifold-Only

https://www.rvajack.com/RVA-Document-Slide-out-recommended-wiring-and-plumbing-diagram

https://www.rvajack.com/RVA-Document-Slide-out-manifold-Operational-Cut-away

The system should run the pump and operate one or the other control valve for extend or retract.

Go to coach assist under  brochures for almost all Beaver coaches then pick Safari Motor Coach section 1994 to 2001
In that section you will find a whole section on slide out adjustments for the Magnum chassis coaches
You will also see the RVA slide control valve schematic.

Hope this helps
Eric

[Pierce LeFevre Jr]

Hello Eric,
Thanks so much Sir.  You were dead on that the Living Room slide hydraulic manifold is that one by RAV!  So thanks again for nailing that and also for mentioning and directing me to the Coach Assist resource area.  I'm new to the Forum so just learning all these resources and Coach Assist area is awesome.  RAV tech should be returning a call to assist me hopefully tomorrow with how to relieve pressure. 

[Eric Maclean]

Let us know how you make out
Eric

[Pierce LeFevre Jr]

Thanks Eric,
Spoke with Alan at RVA and then Shaun from Beaver Service in Oregon was also nice enough to return a call.  Both confirmed no quick relief from pressure at this RVA manifold other than simply disconnecting the two #4 JIC output lines.  Since I'll have to do that, per a suggestion from Alan at RVA, I plan to install an in between valve body that will dump simultaneously these two output lines hydraulic pressure with the quick pull of one knob. (photo attached).
After disconnecting at RVA manifold, I'll lengthen those hoses with two 24" hoses (males to female) down to where I'll mount this new valve, since the RVA valve is up high and hard to reach.  Then simply return to the RVA valve with two more 24" hoses (female to female).  Using all male #4 JIC 90% adapters at the new valve should make it easy to come down to and back up from new release valve.  It'll take a week or so to get all parts in and complete this portion.  I'll then tackle manually pushing or jacking the slide out manually to find/repair the problem there.  If I ever have another slide problem, it'll be very quick to remove the two "exhaust" port plugs I'll install and pull the knob to relieve pressure to manually move the slide.  Will advise again concerning slide-out repair once it's done.