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OTD Canopy Identification Needed
Neal E Weinmann:
Can anyone identify the OTD Canopy pictured? It's on our 05 Beaver Monterey Bayview IV, and doesn't seem to be the Carefree 4654 noted on the Data Card. It's stuck closed and I'm looking for a manual or procedure to manually or jumper it open in order to the access the motor. When the key at the switch is turned to on and the adjacent canopy open/close switch is toggled, there IS power being applied, but no activity at the unit. Thanks.
David T. Richelderfer:
Your OTD awning in the picture looks very similar to ours and works the same too, I might add... NOT! Our OTD awning stopped working several years back and a month or two ago I removed it from the coach for repair.
I was told ours is a Carefree Marquee OTD Awning. I was told by the repair firm here in Yuma that Carefree does not support it any longer... and worse, Carefree has no replacement motors. The repair shop where I took ours has had it for over a month and is looking for a replacement motor or one very close in design that will work. I had removed the motor from the awning and it will not turn with 12V power applied to it. The motor had to be removed to release the awning to push out its leading edge to its extended position. The trick is to figure out how to get the awning to open enough to remove a third screw that holds the clamshell-like cover over and around the awning motor.
There was one screw on top of the clamshell nearest the coach sidewall pointing straight down that is easy to remove. There is another screw on the aft end of the clamshell pointing forward that goes through both halves of the clamshell and screws into the motor. That third screw was a PITA to get out. Just above your porch light and on the leading edge of the awning you will see a rectangular piece on that leading edge... maybe 2 inches wide and 4 inches high. That 2 x 4 inch rectangular piece is held on by a horizontal screw pointing straight forward. You have to forcibly wedge that rectangular piece out just enough to see and remove that screw. With that screw removed, the rectangular piece is easily removed. Now you will see another horizontal screw pointing at the coach that was hidden under the rectangular piece. With that screw removed, the clamshell can be removed from around the motor.
If I remember accurately, there are three screws and three bolts holding the motor in place. Before pulling the motor away from the awning roll, be sure to put a cord/rope around the fore end of the awning. If you don't, then when the motor is pulled off the end of the awning roll, the awning will snap out and knock you off your ladder.
Removing the whole OTD awning unit from the coach is now pretty easy but may not be necessary if you find a replacement motor or are able to repair your motor. You could put the new motor or repaired motor in by leaving the awning up over the door.
Neal E Weinmann:
Thanks, David - I am reliving your trials while trying to outsmart yet another mechanical challenge. I chatted with Carefree, they sent me documentation that I thought might apply, but it wasn't anything more than the inapplicable pages I already downloaded and printed. In return, I've sent the tech rep two pictures of my unit that has the differences that seem to never have been documented in their supporting literature. I'm hoping there's still someone around at Carefree who might have the black magic secrets to taking it apart or off with some amount of rationality and decorum.
P.S. - I called BCS Parts Department for some context, and did find out that they have two motors in stock!....for a mere $529.00. Each...
I plan to call BCS Service tomorrow to see if one of their "senior" staff of techs or managers has unlocked any black magic when dealing with this seemingly absurd design.
Gene Obie:
Does this match your awning.
https://www.e-carefree.com/ecarefree30/ExplodedPartsViewController?productId=30
Florida automated shades may be able to find you are placement motor.
https://www.floridaautomatedshade.com/
Joel Ashley:
Somewhere in the last 5 years of the Forum are previous discussions of this. I had a similar issue after my stepson power washed the coach. I think he got water inside the awning motor. At any rate, I took everything I could apart related to it, including the control over the door inside, and determined the motor must be bad, as it was getting power. Of course the thing was stuck closed so as David notes you can’t get at the mounting equipment then. Yeah, heck of a design, huh?
Ultimately I coaxed it enough to get at much of the end cap innards, but the motor is cylindrical on ours. If you can’t get the entire unit off because the mounts are not exposed, you’re relegated to pulling the motor out the end. Oh, but guess what; the big awning’s frontmost arm hangs in the way. No way can one slide the motor out without removing the big awning. It’s conceivable that the arm could be detached in such a way as to swing it up out of the way perhaps, but having spent hours defining methodologies that failed up to that point, I gave up on messing with the darned thing anymore. BCS likely has been there, dun that, and can either replace the motor or the awning far easier than I.
You are presumably lucky, at least in the sense your motor is pre-cylindrical era, and can be accessed without fooling with perfectly good and unrelated adjacent awning equipment.
Joel
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