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Gregory J Dugre

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spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« on: March 26, 2025, 03:26:49 PM »
Last year when we started traveling it was close to 100 degrees and it was impossible to keep the cab at a reasonable temperature. I have seen some people use reflective bubble material inside cabinets to help insulate temp extreme's. I was thinking about adding about a 1/2 inch of spray foam inside the front cap above the windshield but was concerned about weight and having problems servicing anything back there in the future. I thought it might help reduce noise also. Has anyone tried doing this or the reflective bubble wrap and if so do you have any suggestions or advice.
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Re: spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2025, 07:42:12 PM »
Greg,
Few tips for keeping the coach cab comfortable while driving in AZ and other high temp regions in the summer. Run your generator so you can have your all heat pumps running on high. Have your dash AC on high and set to max cooling so it is recirculating internal coach air. Have the cab overhead fan on to help recirculate the cool air. Consider having the salon windows tinted on the inside. This in addition to the factory tint helps considerably. Keep the salon curtains or blinds closed, especially on the sun side. Run the rear heat pump also as it helps the overall interior temps and makes the bedroom more comfortable quicker after a stop. Insulating the upper cab front will help keep the electronics a bit cooler but will have marginal impact on cab temp IMHO. Do not use reflective foam sheets on the interior against the windows as the heat buildup between them and the window can cause damage to the glass. Also check your dash AC cooling as it may be a bit low on Freon. It should provide at least a 20 degree delta when compared to the coach interior temp at the dash on a surface not in direct sunlight.
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Re: spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2025, 10:00:55 PM »
Greg
From the factory my coach had a sheet of the old style paper backed fiberglass insulation in the front cap behind the cabinets.paper side in.
Remember in cold weather the cap area can also condensed moisture on the cold surface.

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Re: spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2025, 07:35:25 AM »
As Steve noted, don’t use tint film on the inside of double pane windows.  We had a company do that not long after building our house and that company and the window mfr. had to negotiate replacing our big south-facing picture window.  They used tinted glass (not film) for the new one instead.

We’ve found an external windshield cover makes a big difference while parked, especially if the coach isn’t facing north.  Mounted outside, it won’t trap reflected heat against the windshield.  But I know what you’re referencing.  The cap over the windshield and audio/video products encapsulated therein get ridiculously hot;  it caused our TV to often turned on by itself.  I started keeping the right cabinet door open and entertained using a small fan to force ventilate the space, but it only helps heat up the living area.

As an addendum, if you have a plastic-cased Belkin power strip stuffed back in the cap behind your A/V devices, it’s advisable to replace it with a metal-cased one.  A member here found out the hard way that if the plastic strip overheats or short circuits, it can more easily catch fire than a metal one, whose case can contain flames.

As to spray foam, I’d be reluctant for reasons that you expressed.  Reflective wrap at least wouldn’t interfere much with any future changes or work.  Fan ventilation might be more amenable/effective, especially if one could finagle an acceptable exhaust to the outside.

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Re: spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2025, 02:19:47 PM »
Joel,
We had window tint film applied to the interior of our salon windows in 2016 and had no issues. Sold the coach in 2024. That said, we kept the coach garaged when not in use.
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Re: spray foam insulation inside front cap?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2025, 11:02:55 PM »
I wish I’d taken my brother’s advice decades ago and added a pad cover aside our house.  Storing inside certainly plays in to amelioration.  But one or two 110F days in a minimally shaded Midwest park, with heat concentrated/trapped between panes could take out the seals, ultimately culminating in fogging and etching.  I’m just saying that where your rig is commonly parked should be taken into consideration when film is being mulled over.

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