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Richard Cooper

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Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« on: June 07, 2012, 03:37:35 PM »
I'm having a problem with the rounded shower door on my 2001 Beaver Marquis 40JSP.  I am not near my coach now otherwise would take a picture for you.  But the top of the door rides on a rail and the top of the door has 2 rollers.  One of them has a decorative cap missing.  Would be nice to have it match the other one (in gold).

The worst part is the bottom part of the door that glides along some kind of rail there.  There are 2 clasps or I don't know what to call them, but they also keep the door in place and hopefully glides along securely.  Those things are not working correctly.  I have to be extra careful in opening and closing the door or else the entire door can come loose ---- and it's very heavy.

The dealer I bought the coach from tried to repair or tighten up the area.  They didn't do a very good job and I have no confidence in the integrity of this door and the way it glides around the shower to open and close.  

Have others encountered this problem?  What is the solution other than to have the entire shower replaced with modern day materials from a bath specialist?
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Jeremy Parrett

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 05:12:05 PM »
Hi Richard,
 The manufacturer  of my shower is Cesana.  
The top rail on mine actually broke off. There are 2 fittings that slide into the left and right tubes atop the side glass panels that the center tube attaches to.  I replaced these fittings.
The rollers atop the moving door you mention are adjustable.
Behind the covering cap you will find a nut.  If you rotate it the door height will change.This will enable you to raise or lower the door to the correct height so the bottom sliders engage correctly.  The bottom sliders are spring loaded.  Pull them down to swing the door away from the bottom rail for removal.  
Parts can be ordered from MilUSA. Inc Lantern Ridge,731 Main Street, Suite B2L,Monroe, CT 06468.
  Phone : 800 527 4498 or  203 880 9900 or 203 880 9904  fax 203 880 9904
 My shower is called Cesana  Cabana Curva  0722> Circle.
 I can fax you the parts list .
                                                  Jeremy  626 264 0576.
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Edward Buker

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 07:03:23 PM »
Richard,

These Cesana units are well made but have a couple of issues. The installation needs to be done properly for them to work well and mine was an issue from the factory. Right next to the wall along the edge is a wide plastic strip that can be pulled. If I remember right there are slots to adjust for the wall not being plumb. Basically the track that the rollers ride on, the side panels, and the door itself as it closes has to be square and plumb to each other. There is a small amount of adjustment using the rollers but in my case the adjustment that worked was to get the system to be square and plumb to each other and not the wall. The other issue is that the plastic piece on the top develops "ruts" where the wheels sit while traveling and those can pose issues with smooth operation. I changed that on mine and since the squaring adjustments as well as the replacement of that plastic piece all is now well. If you call Cesana you can get them to email you the install instructions.


Later Ed

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 10:18:00 PM »
Same here Richard,

I have had good service and response from (used to be Aquaware International) now MilUSA Inc.  

Here's a URL for the 0722 shower - http://www.aquawareamerica.com/familydetails.asp?app1ID=70&app1Name=Shower&cat1ID=&cat1Name=&cat2ID=&cat2Name=&cat3ID=&cat3Name=&familyID=447&familyName=Shape+-+Circle+-+Sliding+Entry+Curved+Corner

Good luck
Glenn
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Jeremy Parrett

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 02:39:42 AM »
to avoid the 'ruts' in the plastic strip the door rollers run on always secure the door in the open position.
 Use 2 or 3  of those telescopic spring loaded shelf thingies that stop things falling off shelves or out of cupboards when traveling.  
The very heavy door  is better supported this way as well.
Compress the shelf thingies and put them between the left vertical door opening and the edge of the door. 2 or 3 will support the door very well.
In 6 months of Baja California roads the door never came loose.

Richard Cooper

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 10:38:48 PM »
I don't think I have ruts in the rubber runner on the middle top bar of my Cesana Cabana Curva 0722> Circle glass shower enclosure.  But, I still have the same issue as first addressed at beginning of this thread.  I'm just now --- a year later --- vowing to do something about it.

I'm aware of who made it, who the USA distributor is, and the parts list with drawings.  I have all that thanks to posters above.

I want to order the right parts and have taken some photos of what issues I am seeing here.  Perhaps you can advise me.

It just seems to me that the middle top bar that the rubber runner guide is mostly on --- the bar seems to be lower than it should be.  Perhaps that is why my door comes loose at the bottom of it where there are two hooks with springs.  The spring on one of them is about shot as far as I can tell.  I would order two of those to replace what is there.  Is just the spring clasp the only part of that I need to order?  I think replacing those two spring loaded clasps would stabilize the bottom and solve a good bit of my problem.  But still need to address the top bar and the rollers.  One roller is missing it's end piece that faces outside the shower.  Right now they are rolling ok.  I'm worried about the bar itself.  I can't see any evidence that anyone has used the bar as a "chin up bar"  ;D -- like a kid might do.  But perhaps it was used by a heavy person to get in and out of the shower.  Who knows.  It doesn't appear damaged or bent, but it seems low.  Maybe that is normal -- I don't know.  But, seems to me if it were about 1/8 of an inch or more higher up that everything would be more stable at the bottom where the clasps are.  But then if the clasps had good springs in them I think they would hold better.  Right now when I open the door I am holding it at the top with my hand pressing on the glass door --- pushing it toward me on the outside.  That's just to make sure it doesn't get off it's rollers on top or on the bottom.  But hard to to control the bottom rolling action from pushing glass at the top.  Sometimes one of the clasps at the bottom turns around and is not clasping the edge it's supposed to glide on at the bottom.  When that happens the door is unstable.  I have to adjust it back.  I'm certain I need at least one clasp, but may as well replace both.

Seems some of you have been along this path and could assist me.

One of the pictures shows a slight opening in the door when it's closed.  It's a gap on the right side looking from the outside.  It looks like it was made this way --- but why?  If someone in the shower were to spray the water in a certain way it would put water outside the shower onto the carpeted area or tile between the shower and the enclosed toilet room.   You can see this in my picture.

Richard Cooper

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 10:41:51 PM »
Sorry my 6th image was not adjusted by me --- I thought I adjusted all of them.  It should have been turned to the left.  Cock your head to the right.  It shows the gap in the door from inside the shower.  I wonder if this was intentional in the shower door design.  A good spray of water there could put water outside the shower.  Has anyone else addressed this?  Is this a flaw in my shower and not yours?

Richard Cooper

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 08:07:31 PM »
Anyone have any thoughts on the recent post above with the pictures that would be helpful to me?

Gerald Farris

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 10:54:35 PM »
Richard,
Some of your questions need a personal inspection to answer, however I will try to give you some guidance. The roller cap is self explanatory, buy a new one. The bar above the door is usually damaged by a pothole or rough road while driving with the door closed. Normally the round tube does not bend, but the cast metal connector on one end of it will break, and let the bottom edge of the door fall to the bottom of the shower. However if the tube above your door is bent (I can not tell from the picture), there is only one thing that can be done, replace it. I would also replace the connectors on both ends. One word of caution, replacing the top tube requires disassembling at least half of the shower, if not all of it. If the tube has been replaced before or if you have a small angle drill you can remove only one wall to replace the tube, otherwise the entire shower enclosure must be removed.

If the lower retainer is worn or damaged, replace both of them. The gap at the lower edge of the door looks like the edge has been damaged at some time, but that should not be a problem because there is a wiper inside of that area to seal the area between the door and wall. If your shower does not have that wiper, install one.

When ordering any parts, make sure that you are ordering the right ones, because most of the Cesana parts pictures show the shower upside down from the way that it is installed in a Beaver. So in their parts diagram the tube for the top of your door may be on the bottom. The key is to look for the long and short walls to determine if their diagram is installed the same way that your shower is.

Gerald

    
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Jeff Wheless

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 07:58:23 PM »
My show door rollers finally wold no longer function.     The bearings had way too much play and the door would sag down off the rail, falling off easily.  Not good.

The original parts are not in production due to bankrupt, no longer in existance supplier(s).   MilUSA has designed an aftermarket custom fab part (with friction rollers instead of bearings and at custom machined prices, but there is no alt that I am aware of.  It's a fussy piece with a unique shape and an eccentric adjustment mechanism.).  Their part number is 66722-99.

Pat Long

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2018, 08:27:47 PM »
Jeff,    I have searched the net via MilUSA 66722-99 and have found nothing?  I am interested in the item myself are you sure of the part # and MFG?

Jeff Wheless

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2018, 08:51:51 PM »
www.aquawareamerica.com

and contact info is at the bottom fo the page.

Jeff

Jerry Sanders

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2018, 10:06:44 PM »
Richard,  I had the same problem with the door disconnecting from the bottom rail.  The top rail had sagged due to the door weight and bouncing from rough roads.  I purchased two of the pot metal inserts the go inside each end of the top rail and that solved the sag problem and the door no longer comes off the bottom rail.  The inserts were purchased at BCS but they are pricey at $125 each.  The solution to prevent a future repeat sag is to fasten the door open on the stronger section of the shower enclosure.  Several people have provided solutions to keeping the door open.  Hope this helps.
Jerry

Michael Hannan

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2018, 09:38:14 AM »
I can't see any evidence that anyone has used the bar as a "chin up bar"  ;D -- like a kid might do.  But perhaps it was used by a heavy person to get in and out of the shower.  Who knows.  It doesn't appear damaged or bent, but it seems lo.

Thanks for the lightbulb moment with this.  I have the same problem and I am a heavy person who was using the bar for steadiness getting in & out of the shower onto the slippery shower floor and tile floor outside of it.

MJ

Doug Allman

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Re: Rounded shower door on 2001 Beaver Marquis
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2018, 01:54:15 PM »
On our 2004 Marquis same problem with coming unhooked on bottom of door that resulted in door moving up and down in travel.
BCS supplied the top rail insert that the top rollers ride on. Their cost was just south of $300.00 for this piece of plastic.
My son then created this same plastic insert out of a piece of black PVC from a sheet of the 1/4" thick PVC we purchased at Menards for less than $50.00 for the 4' x 8' sheet.
Bent the strip with a heat gun which is same procedure BCS had for the one they sent and used Lexel to set the strip in and hold it in place in the upper metal bar. Set plastic in lexel and clamped various places and let set for weeks to secure it in place. Ours is black and BCS part was white. Returned to BCS the $$$$ one.
Solved all our unlatching and smooth rolling of the door problems with this new upper roller plastic insert.