Author Topic: Toyo 12R-22.5 vs Toyo 295/80R22.5  (Read 9522 times)

Mike and Cathy Cleghorn

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Toyo 12R-22.5 vs Toyo 295/80R22.5
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:22:51 AM »
I am considering changing from Toyo 12R-22.5 (original OEM size) to Toyo 295/80R22.5 on my '02 Marquis. The main reason is that I need to replace the Toyo's installed in Aug 2007, and replacement 12R-22.5s won't be available until mid-November - too late for trip starting this Sunday. I understand that the 295/80R is about 1" shorter than the 12R-22.5, but the weight carrying capacity is higher.

Does anyone know other pros and cons of moving to the 295/80Rs? Thanks!

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Re: Toyo 12R-22.5 vs Toyo 295/80R22.5
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 08:49:05 PM »
Les Schwab replaced 4 of ours for us atthe beginning of August.  There was no apparent shortage at that time.  Are there Les Schwab stores in Arizona?
We stayed with  12R Toyo tires because they are original equipment and we run a fairly light load.  It would be interesting to put a 12R  and a 315 side by side just to compare over all sizes.  It may be possible to move up in size if your coach offers the room in the wheel wells.
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Re: Toyo 12R-22.5 vs Toyo 295/80R22.5
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 11:14:39 PM »
Last winter I found out the most southerly Les Schwab store (on my route going south on 95) was in Fallon, NV.  Looking at the store locator shows California having Les Schwab stores as far south as Bakersfield... in Utah as far south as Provo and Price (SE of Provo).  There are no Les Schwab stores in Arizona and Wyoming.

Today I took the Marquis to a friend's truck shop.  We measured clearances around my steering tires (295/80R22.5) with the air dumped, and again measured clearances at ride height with the wheels full stopped both right and left.  The narrowest clearance we could see was about 3 inches.  So we tried on a pair of 315/80R22.5 that were already mounted on identical rims to mine.  They both looked good and the clearances appeared almost as good as the 295s.  I ordered a pair of new Dunlop 315/80R22.5 tires.  These tires go to a 9,090 pound weight limit at 130 psi.  Plus, we found out the steering rims on my Marquis are 22.5 x 9 which surprised us.  We expected the rims to be 22.5 x 8.25 which would mean the rim would have a lower limited max psi due to the narrower rim design and thus the new tires' weight limit could not be fully utilized.

It all seems to be working for me... except for the $609 per tire cost.  But these Dunlop 315s versus Michelin 295 XCoach tires will handle the weight better (9,090 versus 8,270 pounds) and cost about $265 less each.
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Re: Toyo 12R-22.5 vs Toyo 295/80R22.5
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 10:39:29 PM »
Just thought I'd give an update on our tire purchase. We opted to go with the Toyo M-144, 295/80R-22.5 tires. The Les Schwab folks were very reticent about moving to the 315/80R22.5 tires, given our clearance, and the fact that the 315s are wider too.

We purchased six tires at the Bend, Hunnell Rd. Les Schwab store for $3,151, which included balancing the two fronts.

We drove the coach about 1,200 miles after the new tires were mounted, and Cathy and I both thought the ride improved.

We're very happy with our decision! :)
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