Thanks Joel
I will charge them with 20 PSI first It said they should be checked monthly, I have never checked them probably why there is no pressure in them. I cannot find the model# anywhere but I think the specs on the 181 series is are all about the same They can be had for 29.00 to 50.00 all over even at amazon so I guess 17 years they deserve to be replaced. That is a good link should be made into a sticky.