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Title: Mirror Knob
Post by: Edward Buker on February 21, 2015, 10:17:35 PM
I took the coach out for a ride today (2002 Marquis). I was adjusting one of the mirrors and the knob cracked in my hand....getting older like I am I guess. Kind of square(ish) black knob with a white arrow on the top of it. Allows adjustment of one mirror position on the left or right outside mirror stack.

Anyone know who made this knob or have had to replace it. I will give Bend a call but if you have been through this already and found the part let me know.

Thanks Ed
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: David T. Richelderfer on February 21, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
I am not sure what your mirror control switch looks like, but this is what mine looks like:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CONSOLE-MOUNT-POWER-REMOTE-ELECTRIC-MIRROR-SWITCH-CONTROL-BUTTON-LEVER-153-/221583767117?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33976bf64d&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp

The 3-position toggle switch immediately aft of the mirror control switch is labeled "Mirror Position."  Each side mirror (left and right) has three separate, stacked mirrors - a high mirror, middle mirror and low mirror.  The 3-position toggle selects the high, middle or low mirror.  The mirror control button selects left or right.  The arrow buttons on the mirror control switch move the selected mirror up, down, left or right.

There is a new switch down lower on the ebay screen for $42.  The used ones are about $20.
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Roy C Tyler on February 22, 2015, 02:54:33 AM
Ed
Yours sounds like it is the same as mine and it broke about 3 weeks ago.  I just glued it back together with superglue and it works fine now.
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Edward Buker on February 22, 2015, 03:48:42 AM
David,

Mine is not like the Mustang unit, mine is about 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch, mostly square with some curving to the edges but thanks for the look .

Roy,

I will give that a try. May be easier then trying to find one if the glue holds.

Later Ed
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Daniel McShane on February 22, 2015, 03:52:30 AM
Ed,
I got one from BCS a couple weeks ago, they had six in stock. With shipping it was around $40.00, took about 3 days.
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Jerald Cate on February 22, 2015, 03:56:01 AM
Try Gorilla glue Ed it has better shear strength than super glue.
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: LaMonte Monnell on February 22, 2015, 04:14:46 AM
Wow, $40 for a $2.00 knob...inflated prices or what?
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: John Bagwell on February 22, 2015, 04:58:29 AM
Ed,
Mind broke also, I glued it back together with Gorilla glue, and has been working fine. 

Regards,  John

2001 Monetery
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Edward Buker on February 22, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
John and Jerald,

Are you referring to the Gorilla glue that foams and expands? They make different glues now and I wasn't sure. I have overpaid for parts before but I would not spend $40 for a knob.  Maybe that included the switch?

By the look of this switch Dorman probably made the original but this version does not have the same markings on the top and given it does not turn may be different on the bottom. The shape is so close that I think that is not bay chance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/370627755183

Later Ed
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Edward Buker on February 22, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Looks like it is a Ramco ELE310 switch. I read on another forum that someone ordered knobs from them for $19 apiece, still worth a glue job before I go the new route.

http://www.ramco-eng.com/#!mirror-switches/c1mpm

Later Ed
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Joel Ashley on February 22, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
The expanding Gorilla Glue I'm aware of is something I only use on porous surfaces.  On hard plastics it wants to either push the pieces apart, or squeeze out if well-clamped.  Its operational principle is forcefully penetrating porous cellular spaces to get a grip.  Perhaps there is another non-expanding version.

If it is just cracked and not broken off at the stem below to the switch, super glue or Krazy glue is an option I'd try.  But then I'd also consider, depending on the degree of damage, Loctite's or Permatex's plastic bonder epoxies.  They come in "5 minute" and "20 minute" varieties.  The longer-curing one can result in a smoother finish as it has time to self level more.  But I'm talking about using it only if super glue between the parts doesn't hold, and many times it won't on plastics.  The epoxies will have to essentially cover the outside of the knob to tie the parts together after sanding to roughen surfaces for a good epoxy grip;  then you'd have to Dremel-form that surface to clean it up to an original-looking shape and paint it.

By the time you do all that you may wish you'd just got a new switch, but plastic epoxies have fixed a lot of stuff for me lately.

Joel
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: John Bagwell on February 23, 2015, 06:24:13 PM
Ed,
I just used the Gorilla Super Glue.  I took coach out for "exercise", Saturday and it is still working good.

John
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: LaMonte Monnell on February 23, 2015, 08:14:21 PM
Ramco ELE310 is the one I have in the 2001 Contessa.......
Title: Re: Mirror Knob
Post by: Edward Buker on February 24, 2015, 02:12:34 AM
Thanks guys...

Later Ed