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Title: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: JimDyer on March 16, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
I need your help with a wierd plumbing issue. When the shower is running, water runs in more quickly than it goes out. I think there may be a partial clog in the drain pipe caused when I forgot to drain the gray tank on my usual schedule, but now if DW runs water in the sink, the tub drain picks up speed (vortex is noticeably more violent).  

Anybody got a sensible explanation and a way to make the drain run fast all the time?  
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Tom and Pam Brown on March 16, 2012, 04:37:07 PM
Jim,

After trips I notice hair buildup in the drain.  See if that is th issue messy nasty job to clean but necessary.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Ken Buck on March 16, 2012, 04:47:19 PM
When ours does that it's always a hair clog in the drain. I pull up the strainer in the shower drain and reach in and pull out the hair that's hanging on the cross bars an inch below the floor level. Then the drain works just like new. It's possible that's not the problem with yours, but it's the first logical step to take.

Ken
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Dick Simonis on March 16, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
For some reason ours alway drains slowly on the first use after it's been sitting awhile.  Good news is that we do have a door outside that allows access to the trap...bad news it that we don't have a key.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Gerald Farris on March 16, 2012, 04:55:31 PM
Jim,
I agree, it sounds like a hair clog. At times, I have had to use a wire about ten inches long with a bent end to form about a 1/8 inch hook to reach into the drain an remove the hair.

Gerald
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Gerald Farris on March 16, 2012, 04:59:23 PM
Dick,
I should have a key to your access door, and I will give you one the next time I see you at a rally. The bad news is that it does not give you much access.

Gerald
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: barbhalsell on March 16, 2012, 05:02:29 PM
Shop vac that clog!
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Richard And Babs Ames on March 16, 2012, 05:13:40 PM
We carry a plunger and it works and is cheap and chemical free. The drain does not have an over flow.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: LarryNCarolynShirk on March 17, 2012, 02:48:00 AM
The next time you are at Quartzsite, buy some forceps.  They work great for cleaning that drain.  You may also buy them at Harbor Freight.

Larry
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Joel Weiss on March 17, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
I have had good success with removing the shower head and holding the hose directly against the drain opening. I set the water temp to hot and the flow to maximum. Even without sealing the hose to the opening, it acts like a water jet and, after 10 minutes or so, does a very good job of cleaning the pipe.  Usually I have only needed to do this only once every 3-4 months.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: JimDyer on March 17, 2012, 03:38:09 AM
I guess I should have mentioned that this is after having cleaned the hair out using a thing like an awl, only bent and twisted as it came from the Stanley factory.........


I'll try some gel drain cleaner.

Thanks to all of you.

Jim
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: LarryNCarolynShirk on March 17, 2012, 06:22:09 AM
Jim,

Be sure the drain cleaner will not damage the seals in your tank and valves.

Larry
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Bill Sprague on March 17, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
There is an almost new plumbing tool called a "Zip-It".   It is a short, flexible plastic snake with barbs on it to grab hair.  It works.  Video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_TtfTL4yo.  Buy one here:  http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-Products-400-Zip-It-Cleaning/dp/B000BO9204/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1331991137&sr=1-1.  I've seen them at Lowes too.

If you do buy one from Amazon, go though the link on the BAC home page!
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: LEAH DRAPER on March 17, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
The zip-it tool with cleaner is also available at Home Depot.  I've used it in the house and it works GREAT!
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Jeremy Parrett on March 18, 2012, 05:05:26 AM
The Cesana shower drain/stopper can be unscrewed and lifted out for cleaning??? :)
My wife Jane discovered this the other day after washing the dog in the shower !!!
Draining the vanity sink simultaneously will increase suction on the shower but not enough to help much.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Joel Ashley on March 18, 2012, 05:06:53 AM
Sure n' begorra!
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Bill Sprague on March 19, 2012, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: ]..........Anybody got a sensible explanation and a way to make the drain run fast all the time?  [/quote
I'm not completely sure of this, but it might be your vent.  

My understanding is that in a house, all the drains have vents that go through the roof.  Their purpose is to allow free flow of air into the drains behind the draining water so that it drains quickly.

Our motorhomes don't have those.  Instead we have a type of vent under the sink that is a one way check valve for air.  My motorhome has two.  They are under the bathroom sinks.  The kitchen sink does not have one that I can see.  It might be hidden.

The check valve vents can have two failure modes:  stuck open or stuck closed.  Open can cause hard to find odors and closed can cause drains to be slow.  

I'm not sure, but I think they can be unscrewed and replaced.  I don't think they are glued on.  

If your shower shares the vent with the sink, and the vent is stuck, it might be the cause of your shower drain problem.  

Dick's suggestion that his is worse after it has been stored for awhile suggests that his might be only a little sticky and gets better with exercise.  

Good luck.  If these motorhomes were easy to figure out, everyone would have one!

Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: John Hennessey on April 11, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
We were having the same slow running shower drain which was probably due to a hair clog so I heated up 4 cups of water to around 185 degrees and poured it down the drain.  Then I took pantene hair conditioner and squired some down the drain and followed up with another 4 cups of hot water and it cured the issue.
Title: Re: Weird Plunbing Issue
Post by: Joel Ashley on April 12, 2012, 03:42:14 AM
Hmmmm...
That's the last time I use Pantene on my hair.  ;D