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Technical Support / Re: No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Steve Huber on July 29, 2026, 03:56:23 PM »
Fred, Richard,
Just to be clear, your toad brake lights worked when attached to the coach until this trip??
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Fred Brooks on July 29, 2026, 12:38:10 PM »
   Richard,
Using a test light on the motor home plug, the 3:00 o'clock pin is the right turn signal and brake light signal and the 9:00 pin is the left turn signal and brake light signal. Have someone step on the brake pedal in the coach and see if either pin light up your test light. If so, then the issue is in the male plug. If there is no light, then the issue is on the coach side. Either in the plug, no converter, no power to the plug (fuse).
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Technical Support / Re: No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Richard Shrode on July 29, 2026, 06:38:30 AM »

I will do my best to answer ….

Fred:
The coach has four stacked rear lights. Top is amber/yellow colored turn signal. Middle two are red brake lights and bottom is clear back up.
Our toad is a 2025 jeep gladiator. I don’t believe it has yellow turn signals. I installed a blue ox light wiring harness that until this trip has worked fine. I have been looking for a converter or brake light fuse etc. but I’m unsure where to look or even what they would look like. I’ve Checked fuses in the front electric bay repeatedly and haven’t found a bad one yet.

Steve:
I can ID the wires running to the rear brake lights. I haven’t traced them other than looking for a fuse or converter box. For some reason I thought those wires would be separate from what was run to the 7 way connector ….. ?

Thank you
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Technical Support / Re: No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Steve Huber on July 29, 2026, 04:03:59 AM »
Richard,
You should be able to ID the brake light wires running to the coach rear brake lights with a meter or voltage probe. From there you can follow the wire to see if it goes into the rear connector for the toad hookup. There should be a separate pin on the connector for the brake light signal going to the toad as far as I know.
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Fred Brooks on July 28, 2026, 10:19:09 PM »
    Richard,
Did your other coach have solid red taillights or did it have yellow turn signal lenses dedicated to turn signals only? If it did, then someone installed a "combiner diode 3 to 2" adaptor to combine turn signals and brake signals together. Does your "toad" have yellow turn signal lenses? Have you checked the dedicated fuse in the front run electrical compartment for brake lights? Your coach may have a "rear run electrical panel" that may have a dedicated brake light fuse in it. Please advise. Hope this helps, Fred
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Technical Support / Re: Electrical shutdown on highway
« Last post by Jose Rita on July 28, 2026, 10:32:27 AM »
Thank you all for the help.  I replaced the solenoid and the electrical is working great.  I ordered a spare to keep on hand.
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Technical Support / No power for brake lights at coach 7 pin connector
« Last post by Richard Shrode on July 28, 2026, 04:38:02 AM »
A bit of a Hail Mary since we’re traveling and am hoping for an easy fix or place to start looking. Our 2007 beaver contessa doesn’t have power for toad brake lights. Both turn signals work fine but when the brakes are applied in the coach … nothing. Plugged the toad into another rig and it had turn signals and brake lights but when plugged into our coach just turn signals, no brake lights. Plugged a tester into coach and same thing, turn signals, no brake lights.
Going to see if there’s someone in town to look at it tomorrow, but in the mean time, any suggestions of things to check?
Thank you
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Technical Support / Re: 2004 Patriot Thunder Entry Door Questions
« Last post by Fred Brooks on July 28, 2026, 12:08:46 AM »
    Bill,
 The door lock is made by Trimark. The "F" code is identified as a pass key that sales personal would have on their key ring to access any coach with the F on the lock. For more information contact Trimark 800-431-8616. Fred
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Technical Support / 2004 Patriot Thunder Entry Door Questions
« Last post by Bill Borden on July 27, 2026, 07:07:13 PM »
Well we just bought our 3rd Beaver, our 2000 is up for sale.

We bought a 2003 last fall, then a tree fell on it and the insurance company finally decided to totaled it.  Very disappointing.

We found a 2004 Patriot Thunder, just 22 miles away.
 
We bought Alan & Carol Scott's coach.  We were lucky to find them.

So on to the door problem, no key for the handle lock.  The door was made by Monaco.  Roadmaster chassis.

The handle/latch key tumbler has a F code.  The basement doors tumblers, have a 211 code.

I have been told it that the F code means it is random key, somewhere between 201 to 250. 

Does anybody what key code is for a 2004?  I have already talked to BCS, Mike didn't know.

Any help would be great, thanks.


Safe travels,
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Technical Support / Re: Electrical shutdown on highway
« Last post by Joel Ashley on July 27, 2026, 02:42:39 AM »
If you don't decide to go the expense of an electronic one, consider carrying a spare 24059BX.  ;)

And be sure you replace the diode with its gray stripe on your left, as David previously mentioned.


-Joel
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