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Title: Michelins tires
Post by: Jerry Carr on July 28, 2014, 10:46:34 PM
FYI

I called Superior Tire Service Inc. 1409 Ne Columbia Blvd Portland, OR 97211 for the FMCA deal on Michelins tires 295/80R22.5 Michelin XZA2 load H (quotes are $715.00) less the FMCA discount $670.+ some excise tax. They now have inventory on hand.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Joel Ashley on July 28, 2014, 10:57:19 PM
That's somewhat more than what Larry Williams just paid for his 275/70 Michelin XZA2 Energy at Bob Dickman's in Junction City/Eugene ($495.89 plus $32.51 FET each).  Is there that much difference in price just relative to tire size?

-Joel
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Larry Williams on July 29, 2014, 12:29:54 AM
Quote from: Joel Ashley
That's somewhat more than what Larry Williams just paid for his 275/70 Michelin XZA2 Energy at Bob Dickman's in Junction City/Eugene ($495.89 plus $32.51 FET each).  Is there that much difference in price just relative to tire size?

-Joel
It is the size. There is a huge difference. But I seem to remember it was $638 plus $42 FET. He needs to get the prices from FMCA. Check the website. Of course that price may have included installation, if so that is a good price.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Jerry Carr on July 31, 2014, 04:35:31 PM
bottom line on the new FMCA pricing for the XZA2 in the 295/80 22.5 H load) $679.00 this includes the $40.90 FET. Superior Tire in Portland now has inventory on hand (date 4-14) The FMCA does not offer any deal on the install
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Moffett Co-Admin on August 02, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
Ran into a new friend at an RV park.  We got to talking tires, his were installed new when they bought the coach in 2007.  We checked the date code because there is noticable checking and found them to be new in 2000.  Thats right 14 years old!
He started pricing tires and found Michelin running $300. More per tire than Toyo for 295.80  22.5
Interestingly Les Shwab in Wa is slightly cheaper than in Or. So you lose half of the money you save on no tax buying in Or.
The price after mount, balance etc was $1650 verses $1050 for two tires.
This reflects the retail price not the FMCA discount price but going by above postings there is no way you will make up the difference.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Moffett Co-Admin on August 03, 2014, 02:16:12 AM
So, after some thought I decided to stay with Toyo tires.  I just couldn't justify the cost of changing to Michelin.  I had Les Schwab order in four new 12R M170 tires and the invoice including Wa tax,mount, balance and all new stems came to just under $2800.
Keith
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Tom and Pam Brown on August 03, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
Keith, I installed Toyo as well, they time out before I can wear out so the extra cost seemed not a good idea for my particular situation.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Oliver on August 03, 2014, 11:06:21 PM
When I bought my new coach at the end of March, the dealer was unable to find Michelins, so I was given a choice between Toyo and others.  8 Toyo 295/75 x 22.5, mounted, stems, taxes, all in from Phoenix AZ $4500.00.  I don't expect to see significant wear in the next 10 years, so saving the $ seems the best course.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Steve Huber on August 03, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
Keith,
How do they ride v Mich or GYs.?
Steve
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Tom and Pam Brown on August 04, 2014, 02:48:22 AM
Steve, on my coach it had Michelins when I bought it 5 years ago.  The Toyos to me have a equal or superior ride.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Jerry Carr on August 04, 2014, 03:56:37 AM
Steve I did notice a big difference in the improved ride of the michelin
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Ron Langdon on August 04, 2014, 09:14:46 AM
Just put a new set of XZA2 on our 2008 PT. Had to wait about 2 months, but Phelps Tires in Mt. Vernon did the job at the FMCA price plus their mounting costs. Big $ hit, but have already noticed the difference in the ride. Much smoother and quieter.
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Moffett Co-Admin on August 04, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: Steve Huber Co-Admin
Keith,
How do they ride v Mich or GYs.?
Steve
Will have to let you know.  They will be installed on Wednesday.  I am replacing Toyo with new Toyo so I dont expect big changes.

Keith
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Oliver on August 08, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
Steve:

I test drove the new coach on GYs, then had Toyos mounted.  The test drive was too short to get a feel for diverse conditions, but compared to the old Contessa, on Bridgestones, I find the Toyo ride noticeably nicer.  I haven't ridden Michelins, so can't comment on them.
Keith
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Steve Huber on August 08, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
Keith,
Thx for the info. I had GYs on my Contessa but the Marquis has Michelins which ride much better but was curious as to the Toyos as an alternative when I'm due for another set.
Steve
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Gerald Farris on August 09, 2014, 01:47:01 AM
Steve,
My Marquis came with new Toyo tires that I ran for 3 years before replacing them due to overloading of the 11R22.5 size tires. I then changed to Bridgestone 298/80/22.5, and did not notice any difference in ride or handling between the two. However, when I replaced the Bridgestones with the same size Michelins, I could tell a noticeable difference in ride, but the Bridgestone front tires were worn out, so that may have been a contributing factor.

Gerald    
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Steve Huber on August 09, 2014, 02:56:33 AM
Gerald,
Thanks for the info. I've got a few years yet on the Michelins. I've been very pleased with them so far but trying to see if there is a less costly alternative with the same quality,
Steve
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Edward Buker on August 09, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Steve,

On my earlier coach I had Michelin tires and went to Toyos. It was a lighter coach so there was not an tire overload issue. What I noticed was a stiffer ride like what one would expect out of what was designed as a truck tire. The Michelins on the other hand were more compliant with what appears to be a more flexible sidewall. The Michelins provided a more comfortable ride while still tracking well and having excellent control.

If the Toyos had a tire rated for the weight and you did not mind a stiffer ride then I think they are a quality tire. Not sure you can find one that fits your Marquis that has an adequate weight rating.

Later Ed
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Keith Moffett Co-Admin on August 09, 2014, 06:10:19 AM
I am still learning stuff about MH s.  Our 2002 came with 12R Toyo tires which is a  truck tire and has thicker sidewalls than the contemporary 315/80 22.5 tires.
  No way are they as smooth or quiet so there is no comparing the ride like Toyo to Michelin because these are truck tires.  At least with the heavy duty sidewalls they should resist UV s better.
 Michelin also makes a 12R but I dont know much about how it compares because when asked Michelin  suggested I use their 275/95 22.5 which is very under rated for our coach.
This is how we ended up staying with Toyo, that and a couple hundred per tire.

Keith
Title: Re: Michelins tires
Post by: Steve Huber on August 09, 2014, 07:02:05 PM
Ed,
I've got  XZE2 11R 22.5 LRH on it now which Michelin specs as a truck tire (but also comes up in the RV selector) and ride is fine at the required 115PSI, better than the GY RV 670s I had on the Contessa. I also ran them at the recommended PSI based on axle corner weight (90-95 PSI) .
Steve