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Dinghy Brake System
Joel Ashley:
--- Quote from: Bill Sprague --- He argues that Montana drivers have reciprocal privileges anywhere they go.
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I would proffer that receprocity extends to the licensing and vehicle operation of the driver, not necessarily to the configuration of the vehicular composition he's piloting. We had relatives in Idaho that years ago triple towed everywhere there, but wouldn't cross into Oregon that way. When I ran the shipping dock at Fred Meyer's general merchandise warehouse, we had just bought a chain of stores in Utah and elsewhere. We had to configure trailers for those new stores by setting up doubles in Clackamas (OR) that were taken to (I believe) Pocatello or vicinity, where they were tripled together for the rest of the haul.
Now I believe you can ship commercial triples in Oregon with proper but stipulative licensing, and you are restricted to Federal Interstates and only other highways to the extent you can access your terminals. Noncommercial triple setups are strictly prohibited and in certain state portals vehemently enforced, retired cop or not. As a general rule, except for Maryland, virtually all of the east coast and Hawaii, Washington, and Oregon do not allow private triples; the rest of the West (and Alaska) and everywhere in between it's unrestricted.
Joel
Gil_Johnson:
Bill, he's wrong as Joel pointed out. Maximum number of trailers and maximum length and some other restrictions are set by the state and apply to anyone using their roads, regardless of where they are tagged. However, he will no doubt leverage "professional courtesy" he he's ever stopped. BTW, unless he did substantial work on the trailer's frame, he's driving an accident just waiting for the Jeep to break away.
Gil
--- Quote from: Bill Sprague ---I have an acquaintance from camp hosting in a state park that is a retired Arizona cop. He and his wife live in a fifthwheel that's about 40 feet. He tows it with a Volvo tractor that he says cost him less than a pickup. Behind the fifthwheel he tows a Jeep Cherokee, that does not have aux brakes. Between the truck cab and front of the fifthwheel he has a motorcycle. Even though his home used to be Arizona, he licenses everything in a dummy corporation in Montana. He tows double everywhere. He argues that Montana drivers have reciprocal privileges anywhere they go. He maintains he has never been pulled over but has knowledge, skills and paperwork to stop any cop from giving him a ticket. He has a buddy that shows up once in awhile that does the same thing. You don't dare asking either of them a question about it because they won't stop teaching you how smart they are until you agree 100%!
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Bill Sprague:
--- Quote from: ]Bill, he's wrong as Joel pointed out. .... BTW, unless he did substantial work on the trailer's frame, he's driving an accident just waiting for the Jeep to break away.[/quote ---I know he's wrong. But, he was compelled to be right. And, it did break away last year. The Jeep was totaled. Nobody was hurt and I don't know which part failed.
He also keeps a loaded pistol in a "waist pack" that looks like it came from LL Bean to keep your water bottle in. If he unzips it, you can see that it is 100% a holster. I chose to limit conversations with him.
I will see him soon and maybe will learn more about "RV Doubles".
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Joel Ashley:
Here's Roadmaster's response to a note I sent regarding Forum members' lack of trust as to the amount of toad braking being applied. Admittedly I was a tad disappointed because I'd hoped they might provide some sort of testing data, but they only reiterated product promotional information i've read repeatedly before. That aside, my experience with their Brakemaster is all positive, and I have found no reason to disbelieve, knowing the product design, that the degree of pressure I apply on the coach brake pedal translates equally to the toad's.
-Joel,
"I do apologize, but I can't comment on any of the competitors supplemental braking systems out there, but I can tell you that the Brakemaster braking system, is a true proportionate braking system. What ever pressure is applied to the motor home brakes, the same pressure is applied to the towed vehicle brake pedal. When the Brake away is engaged the brakes on the towed will apply for up to 30 seconds, then disengage, giving the user enough time to pull over safely. Hope this helps, have a great day."
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Benny Asanoma
Technical Support
Roadmaster, Inc.
800-669-9690 ext. 157
Edward Buker:
Within a very short period the auto vacuum assist is depleted, probably during the first pedal application. I do wonder how much real toad braking there is with moderate pressure applied to the toad brake pedal with vacuum assist no longer available. May be worth at test with one of these 5000lb toads to shut down the engine while traveling at moderate speed on a straight away and see how fast you stop with what would be expected to be a proportional amount of moderate brake pedal pressure. Maybe in reality the coach is handling 90% of the toad braking anyway unless maybe a vacuum pump is constantly running or cycling to allow the brake vacuum assist to work, Do your units have vacuum pumps? How do you actually calibrate the proportional assist?
Later Ed
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