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Don Colapietro

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C9 CAT t'stat housing frozen bolt
« on: July 26, 2024, 07:23:51 PM »
Hi everyone, I'm having a real problem with a frozen bolt on the t'stat housing on my C9 Cat. 5 out of the 6 came loose, but #6, middle, left side won't budge. I've drilled a 7/64 hole into the housing at the edge of the washer to the shank of the bolt and have been spraying Free All penetrant for several days with no luck. Can't get at the block to try heating it with a torch without pulling the A/C compressor. had a severe overheating problem on the way out to Hungry Horse Mt, so I really need to change them. any suggestions? Thanks, Don Colapietro  239 940 6199 '06 Monterey
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Eric Maclean

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Re: C9 CAT t'stat housing frozen bolt
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2024, 09:57:45 PM »
Don
Heat is your best bet
The next thing to try now that you have got penetrateing oil into the bolt hopefully into the threads is to beat on the head of the bolt to try and free the seized bolt by jaring and shacking the rust loose.
The shank of the bolt is likely frozen in the housing so heating the housing area around the bolt and beating on it may do the trick.
If you break the bolt you may have to weld a nut to the remainder to extract it.

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Re: C9 CAT t'stat housing frozen bolt
« Reply #2 on: Today at 12:08:57 AM »
Don,

I have to agree with Eric that heat is probably your best bet.  Since that is impractical right now try a can of freeze out along with numerous shocks to the bolt head with a hammer, or rocking action with a small impact going in forward and reverse multiple times to hopefully break it loose.

You may have to do this numerous times and it may or may not work.   If you get to the point that the bolt breaks I have had decent luck drilling them out with left twist drill bits after leveling and center punching the shaft.  Hopefully you won't get to that point.

Hopefully this will help you or at least give you some ideas.
Carl

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Re: C9 CAT t'stat housing frozen bolt
« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:40:26 AM »
As Carl and Eric say, penetrant and vibration and heat are the go-to for these situations.  I had a warped, noisy 454 exhaust manifold on our old Pace Arrow, some 35 years ago, and it took me weeks of crawling in and out of the wheel well to get the one stubborn bolt out.  Ultimately it broke and I had to drill it out, an complicating circumstance I can't recommend.  The ultimate loosening wasn't with heat, but with PB Blaster and many days of soaking, high-speed tapping/hammering, and cursing.  If you can safely get at it, without igniting things or fluids nearby, heating the bolt head is worth trying, as I've used it successfully on other seized fasteners.

But the trick with penetrant and hammering is the vibration rate, in my opinion.  Soak with penetrant and tap the head in a manner to vibrate the fluid into micro crevices along the thread path.  It can take many, many sessions before the corrosion dissolves enough to succumb the bolt to removal stress.  I never had an impact driver until recently, and am thinking the vibration set up by such a tool might help drive the fluid into the threads better than hammer tapping.

But certainly, heating to change the molecular nature of the bolt relative to the block is a great option.

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