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Technical Support / Re: Mystery leak in storage and wet bay ceilings
« Last post by Steve Huber Co-Admin on April 11, 2025, 02:13:34 AM »
Robert,
The belt line is behind the strip just above of the bay doors. Rusted screws or rivets can indicate water ingress.  If it is sealed with silicone, look for cracked or missing sealant. Reseal with Lexel or equivalent. The area at the roof line is the "gutter" along the top of the side wall. Check for any rusted or loose rivet or screw heads. Are you sure the leak is on the driver's side. A leak at the bathroom window could also allow water into the bay ceiling. Since this is so close to the water bay and pump, are you sure the water pump has not been powered during the time of the leak. Also have you looked into the water pump bay to see if there is evidence of leaking there? It's usually accessible via a removable panel on the rear wall of the bay just forward of the water bay.
The most obvious and common leak in the area you are indicating is the ice maker line, which would run over the leak area you are indicating. While that doesn't correlate with the rain only leak symptom, I'd still check it out. (After ice  maker line leaks in all 3 of our coaches, I closed the ice maker line valve at the pump and used bagged ice. Not much hassle and no more leaks).
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: 2000 Marquis Tourmaline
« Last post by Duane Kunze on April 11, 2025, 01:05:57 AM »
I have the original faucet, drain, the whole works. I was able to unscrew the top of the stopper. Under that is some kind of large head screw, have not tried to remove it yet. But , thanks for your response. I looked at the Amazon link and those seem to be completely different.
Thanks again.
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Technical Support / Re: 2000 Marquis Tourmaline
« Last post by David T. Richelderfer on April 11, 2025, 12:16:06 AM »
Maybe like this:  I installed these in our two sinks - loo and bedroom.  They simply pushed in with the correct sized washer.  So, if yours are like these, then they should just pull up and out.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=spring+loaded+bathroom+sink+stopper&crid=S5F0905V3HWE&sprefix=spring+loaded+sink+stopper%2Caps%2C232&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_5_26
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Technical Support / 2000 Marquis Tourmaline bath tube drain
« Last post by Duane Kunze on April 10, 2025, 11:52:18 PM »
Our Marquis has the bathtub instead of shower stall. Does anyone with the bathtub option know how to remove the spring loaded stopper?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Technical Support / Re: Mystery leak in storage and wet bay ceilings
« Last post by Robert Buterbaugh on April 10, 2025, 08:35:01 PM »
Thanks Steve, there are no windows on that side. Attached pic shows the two bays in question. What do you mean by "seal of the belt-line"? The leak occurs when the coach is stationary and it's been going on awhile so I assume it occurs when driving as well. It also occurs whether the slides are in or out. Also, what is the "roof to body seam"? As I said, we had the roof recently inspected and sealed, but the water is still coming. I guess we keep looking until we know.
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Sources for Suppliers, Parts and Maintenance Materials / Re: Window seal to coach - Thin rubber seal
« Last post by Tony Olinger on April 10, 2025, 05:32:40 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

It seems to only have butyl tape when I took it out.  I now have a better idea of what to do

Tony
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Technical Support / Re: Mystery leak in storage and wet bay ceilings
« Last post by Steve Huber Co-Admin on April 10, 2025, 01:07:18 AM »
Robert,
Since the reefer and wet bay are not in/below the slides I would not suspect the slides nor would I cut into the overheads of the bays. The water is probably coming down one of the walls. Suggest you check the seals on the window(s) above the bays or the seal of the belt-line. You can use a garden hose to check both areas and see if you get water dropping from the bay ceiling. It may take a while for the water to get to the bay so don't hurry the hose wet down. You didn't say if it leaked only when driving or stationary or both. If the former spray from both the forward and vertical positions. Also look very carefully for any indication of water damage on the walls above the bays as the water may be entering at the roof to body seam (think yours has one). If a body seam use Lexel to seal, not silicone as it will dry out and harden over time. If the leak is at a window, suggest you remove it and replace the sealant between it and the body. It is probably either a gasket type seal or a caulk strip (available at hardware stores).
Steve
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Technical Support / Mystery leak in storage and wet bay ceilings
« Last post by Robert Buterbaugh on April 09, 2025, 11:15:44 PM »
2006 Beaver Monterey Laguna - Every time it rains, water accumulates in the ceilings of the wet bay and the storage bay under the refrigerator. Based on what I've read, there is an AC drain hose that runs from the top of the coach down through the refrigerator compartment and the storage bay (front left corner) out the bottom of the bay. The hose appears to be intact. When it rains, water pools in the front left corner of the CEILING of the storage bay and drips out the hole around the AC hose, saturating the floor of the bay. The fridge compartment (above the storage bay) is completely dry and there is a clamp on the AC hose but it appears secure. I recently had the roof inspected and all areas of the roof sealed. The leak precedes the roof inspection. I placed duct tape along the top and side of the front driver slide but it made no difference in the most recent rain event. Both light fixtures in the wet and storage bays have repeatedly filled with water and upon removing them, water drips from the screw holes. Today I cut into the plastic layer of the ceiling in the storage bay and there is a layer of wood, which is completely saturated. My questions are these: 1. Does anyone know what structural elements are located below the refrigerator and above the storage bay and also above the wet bay? I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I start ripping everything out. I cannot find any structural diagrams online. 2. Is there a diagram that shows where the water system hoses are located from the wet bay to the various distribution outlets? Given that the leak occurs during rain, I doubt it's a water system issue but want to double check. HELP!

Robert and Megan Buterbaugh
Farmingdale, NJ
BERTHA II - 2006 Beaver Monterey Laguna
BERTHA I - 2002 Beaver Patriot
Towing 2018 Jeep Cherokee
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Tony
Depending on the manufacturer and the build date of your coach there were several different types of seal used.
 The first which the window manufactures sometimes used was a closed cell double sided foam tape that was placed on the sealing flange of the window, these were expedient for installation but did not seal very well over time, the second was a putty tape which sealed better but with time dried out and would crack and leak .
The third as Carl has mentioned is butyle tape this is by far the best sealing method however with any of these sealing methods the seal between the flange and the wall is only the primary seal once the window is installed in place it is advised to use a clear caulking like lexol to seal the edge between the sealing flange and the wall after it's installed leaving the bottom edge open so any moisture that gets in can run out at the bottom.


Hope this helps
Eric
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Tony,

If  I understand what you are saying correctly, I think you are referring to butyl tape that goes between the window frame and the outer fiberglass wall of the MH.   You can buy rolls of butyl tape from amazon and just push it in place of the back side of the window frame.  Slide the window in and tighten the screws until it squeezes to tape out, and then clean off the excess tape. 

Hopefully this will be helpful.
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