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General Discussion / Lincoln toads, not?
« Last post by Joel Ashley on June 18, 2024, 02:14:24 AM »
I thought some here might be considering new vehicles that were towable, and would be interested in my experience with Ford.  Since growing up on a farm with a '52 8N tractor and Dad's '53 Ford station wagon, and my first car being a '53 Ford Customline, I've been a Ford fan.  I've had other brands, used and new, foreign and domestic, but now have a '97 F150 and a '97 Explorer.

The air suspension Explorer has logged thousands of miles behind the Beaver, and may continue in that regard.  But a new car for everyday stuff would sure be nice at our age.  Dad used to say, when he bought his new Olds Toronado not long before he passed, "a man oughta own at least one luxury car before he dies".  I dunno about that necessarily, but for the offered features and such we've been considering a Lincoln Nautilus.  I'm not jumping for joy that its latest rendition is built in China, but a recent review of the new Hybrid version on PBS' Motorweek returned a very good analysis and about 30mpg, which surprised me.

The '23 Nautilus was listed in FMCA's magazine annual article as towable last year, and the new hybrid one as towable in last February's issue.  But when asking my local dealer about aftermarket running boards, because these rigs don't have them as an option, she said her documents say the car is not towable 4-down.  Hmmm... Okay, so I wrote to FMCA and they said they've had issues the last couple of years getting replies out of Ford about their towables... no replies in fact. 

My questioning FMCA brought a reply that included links to the 2024 Lincoln Towing Guide and the Nautilus owners' manual.  Both of those documents include sections on 4-down towing behind a motorhome, etc.   It also included references to Roadmaster, who's looking for a '24 Nautilus to design a plate for (I was kinda hoping to be that customer 😁), and Blue Ox who already has made a baseplate for the 2024 Nautilus.  You'd think major towbar mfrs. would know if a vehicle was towable before going to the trouble of making a compatible baseplate.  Providing all that info to the dealer illicited only a it is strange that two resources say the opposite but do whatever you feel comfortable with response. 

In other words if it might not be okayed by Ford, then the dealer wants no responsibility, but neither is the dealer interested in investigating.  She's just going by resources dealers are provided with and have to stick to.  You'd expect the dealer to have better connections at the manufacturer than FMCA editors have.  So either Ford comes through with clearer guidelines, or we may need to consider other options like General Motors.  but good luck getting to the right people, if any, at Ford;  been there, dun that years ago, and they kept saying that the dealer had to answer such questions.  No biggy - I had a 1 ton, low geared GMC to pull my sport cruiser between Clackamas and the San Juan Islands, and it was a good rig, albeit 9-10mpg. 

I digress a bit.  I just thought I'd bring my issues to the attention of anyone else in the Club that might be thinking of a new "luxury" car that's also towable and gets good mileage.  Be careful if Lincoln is on your list, although I delved only into the Nautilus Hybrid.

-Joel

Addendum:  upon closer perusal of the owners manual, I’m thinking that the disconnect with the dealership is that the gasoline Nautilus version, unlike last year’s, is not towable, but the newly redesigned hybrid version is.  The dealer may be reading only documents related to a fully gas ‘24 and not realizing there’s separate documentation for towing the hybrid.  The dealer may be getting a tad miffed at my repetitive emails pressing the issue, but it’s the sort of thing Ford is known to believe dealers, not Ford employees, should answer.  So it’s my opinion the dealer should sort out the truth if they want a sale.

https://motorweek.org/road-tests/2024-lincoln-nautilus/
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Technical Support / Re: 2000 Patriot Dash Fan Resistor
« Last post by John Demartini on June 17, 2024, 05:53:21 PM »
Thanks Eric. I’ll make sure to check connectors for  fan, resistor and switch.
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Technical Support / Re: 2000 Patriot Dash Fan Resistor
« Last post by Eric Maclean on June 17, 2024, 03:33:33 PM »
John
The blower resistor is a Ford #D8BH-19A706-AB
Just ask you local parts store NAPA (etc) for a blower resistor for a 1980 Ford F100 with Air conditioning.
Or a Standard Motor Products # RU-439

While you at it check the plug for burnt connectors

Hope this helps
Eric
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Technical Support / 2000 Patriot Dash Fan Resistor
« Last post by John Demartini on June 17, 2024, 01:52:27 PM »
Hello fellow Beaver owners.  My dash fan is operating only on high, I'm assuming the resistor is bad.  I located the resistor under the front cover close to the steering box area.  I unplugged the resistor and the fan operated the same, only on high.  Does anyone know of a source for a replacement?

Thanks for any suggestions or advice offered.
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Technical Support / Re: SCS básement air
« Last post by Steve Huber Co-Admin on June 15, 2024, 10:32:44 PM »
Be sure to check the connector on the PCB. Overheating is a know problem. Also the service manual in Coach Assist has a troubleshooting guide.
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: SCS básement air
« Last post by Duane Kunze on June 15, 2024, 09:35:12 PM »
Thanks for the reply Steve, I just saw this response, have been very busy with other things. I’m glad to know which is which. Looks like I may have a bad compressor.
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Technical Support / Re: Air Solenoid and Fuel Line Replacement
« Last post by Scott Shearer on June 15, 2024, 02:44:44 AM »
Where are you taking it in Eugene?

-Scott
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Technical Support / Re: Odometer Not Working
« Last post by Trige Gleim on June 15, 2024, 02:20:13 AM »
I just turned off and then back on the battery disconnects for a short time and now the odometer is reading correctly. Hope it continues to work  :D
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Technical Support / Odometer Not Working
« Last post by Trige Gleim on June 15, 2024, 01:57:17 AM »
The odometer has stopped working. Attached is a picture of what the display looks like. All other gauges on the instrument panel are working. Any ideas on what to do? Thank you.
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