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Title: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Gary Donges on December 22, 2022, 05:35:33 PM
Winterizing our 2006 Patriot Thunder RV for the first time. The topic is pretty well covered in previous older posts but I am still fuzzy on a couple of items.

In an old post, Joel Ashley addresses a factory installed winterizing function that some coaches came from the factory pre-plumbed, with hose and shutoff valves already setup to go. That appears to be how our RV is set up. What I am unclear of is, using this nifty pre-plumbed system, do I still need to disconnect any lines from the pump or bottom of the fresh water holding tank? Or, as Joel stated "do I Just drain all lines at the manifold, blow lines out, flip the valves and stick the clear tube in a couple bottles of RV antifreeze, turn on the pump and each plumbing fixture until I get pink coming out" ? 

Merry Christmas and Thanks in advance for your time and input.
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Bill Lampkin on December 22, 2022, 06:35:38 PM
How about storing your rig where it doesn't freeze? Red Bluff or Oroville?
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Joel Ashley on December 22, 2022, 11:30:07 PM
Gary, you pretty much got it.  You don’t need to disconnect tank or pump lines;  use the in-line valves in the pump’s cabinet to shut off the pump-to-tank line and open the line to your antifreeze hose.  Make sure you’ve dumped any water in the tank though, and opened the manifold drains to clear existing water;  but then close them or antifreeze will go there and drain out when you start pumping it.  I’ve never had an issue with not draining or removing the icemaker filter that’s in with the water pump, but it’s an option.

The critical job here is to get antifreeze in the AquaHot, displacing any water in its coils.  So when you turn on the pump make sure you get “pink stuff” at each faucet, including inside and outside shower heads, via BOTH cold and HOT handles.  Your coach is larger than mine, so you may need more than two jugs of RV antifreeze to fill your longer lines, both hot and cold.  It’s good to have a helper to monitor the jugs or turn the faucets, so you don’t have to run back and forth checking the jugs.  Sometimes getting the fluid started into the pump can be difficult if draining lines caused it to lose its prime, so a little water left at the pump inlet can help at the start.

Don’t forget a cup of antifreeze in the washer/dryer drum and run one rinse cycle to protect its pump.  I also remove the hoses on the icemaker water solenoid behind the fridge, and cycle it once to get water out;  had it crack once, I guess when power went out during an ice storm or something.  Or blow air through it while cycling, or cycle til antifreeze goes thru but I’ve not done that… antifreeze in the first batch of ice next spring, nah.  You can cycle the solenoid to open its valve so latent water gets out by turning the clock mechanism inside the freezer or by (safely) applying 110v at the solenoid connectors.  Admittedly I haven’t done that for awhile because the rig has been parked so long, so check your manuals, old posts here or YouTube videos, etc., for how to do that.  If your coach is plugged in, theoretically the heat tape should come on at 40F and protect the solenoid, so you wouldn’t have to drain it.  But an extended power outage might kibosh that.  Your call.

Joel
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Gary Donges on December 23, 2022, 04:33:09 AM
How about storing your rig where it doesn't freeze? Red Bluff or Oroville?

Not a bad idea. Thanks
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Gary Donges on December 23, 2022, 05:30:07 AM
Gary, you pretty much got it.  You don’t need to disconnect tank or pump lines;  use the in-line valves in the pump’s cabinet to shut off the pump-to-tank line and open the line to your antifreeze hose.  Make sure you’ve dumped any water in the tank though, and opened the manifold drains to clear existing water;  but then close them or antifreeze will go there and drain out when you start pumping it.  I’ve never had an issue with not draining or removing the icemaker filter that’s in with the water pump, but it’s an option.

The critical job here is to get antifreeze in the AquaHot, displacing any water in its coils.  So when you turn on the pump make sure you get “pink stuff” at each faucet, including inside and outside shower heads, via BOTH cold and HOT handles.  Your coach is larger than mine, so you may need more than two jugs of RV antifreeze to fill your longer lines, both hot and cold.  It’s good to have a helper to monitor the jugs or turn the faucets, so you don’t have to run back and forth checking the jugs.  Sometimes getting the fluid started into the pump can be difficult if draining lines caused it to lose its prime, so a little water left at the pump inlet can help at the start.

Don’t forget a cup of antifreeze in the washer/dryer drum and run one rinse cycle to protect its pump.  I also remove the hoses on the icemaker water solenoid behind the fridge, and cycle it once to get water out;  had it crack once, I guess when power went out during an ice storm or something.  Or blow air through it while cycling, or cycle til antifreeze goes thru but I’ve not done that… antifreeze in the first batch of ice next spring, nah.  You can cycle the solenoid to open its valve so latent water gets out by turning the clock mechanism inside the freezer or by (safely) applying 110v at the solenoid connectors.  Admittedly I haven’t done that for awhile because the rig has been parked so long, so check your manuals, old posts here or YouTube videos, etc., for how to do that.  If your coach is plugged in, theoretically the heat tape should come on at 40F and protect the solenoid, so you wouldn’t have to drain it.  But an extended power outage might kibosh that.  Your call.

Joel

Joel, thanks for taking time to put together this invaluable information for me. It is a great help and clarifies the task at hand.
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Eric Maclean Co-Admin on December 23, 2022, 03:02:57 PM
Gary
Joel gives great advise the biggest take away is this DONT just blow out the system the Aquahot has to have antifreeze
As it's impossible to blow all the water from the domestic hot water heating loop .
Also
Don't forget to get some antifreeze through both the hot and cold water valves on your clothes washer and dish washer if you have one.
When you have antifreeze in the washer dryer drum run the spin cycle for a short period to get the washer to pump some of that antifreeze into the drain trap that is in behind the washer where you can't see it .

Eric
Title: Re: Winterizing With AquaHot Re-Prise
Post by: Joel Ashley on December 23, 2022, 03:33:49 PM
Eric reminds me of what I’d meant to add and forgot:  pour a little antifreeze in the sink and shower traps.  “Flush” the toilet too until pink stuff shows.  Not sure about the washer hot and cold valves;  the manual seems to have concern only with regard to the washer’s pump in the bottom.  Your call.

Joel