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General Boards => Technical Support => Topic started by: Stan Simpson on April 16, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
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I'm trying to do some of my preventative maintenance myself this year, so I can learn in case of a problem on the road. Here is a picture of my fuel filter. Apparently, Racor is now a division of Parker Hannifan. I went to their website and clicked on where to buy in the Racor Division, added my zip code and the nearest distributor is in Chicago, about 115 miles away.
My local NAPA has the cross reference in stock. Your advice on staying with Racor or using the NAPA replacement?
By the way, my owner's manual says this part # is RaYcor 300200, which has Racor mis-spelled, and no one can find that part #.
As always, thanks for your help.
Stan
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A Cat would probably yowl with a Cummins filter on it, but here is the Fleetguard equivalant and an easy way to order one.
http://www.amazon.com/Fleetguard-Fuel-Water-Sep-FS19551/dp/B001JPGKDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366120541&sr=8-1&keywords=Fleetguard+Fuel+Water+Sep+FS19551
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Thanks for the information, Bill. Much appreciated. I hope you're going through the Beaver portal to Amazon! :)
Stan
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Thanks for the information, Bill. Much appreciated. I hope you're going through the Beaver portal to Amazon! :)
Stan
The link I gave you is through the Beaver portal! I should add, that I put a "shopping list" together for all my filters on Amazon. They were shipped by Amazon "affiliates" last year. Washington State sales tax was not charged and all but one came with free ground shipping.
The previous year I took my list to Tacoma's biggest filter supplier and they crossed everything to Baldwin.
If NAPA is convenient for you, I have never heard anyone say theirs are not of good quality.
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Stan:
The other part 300200 is a pre-filter. It is a mesh filter in a plastic tube ahead of the Racor filter. You can find it on the Parker website:
http://www.parker.com/portal/site/PARKER/menuitem.bb22d5a82bbb5b147cf26710237ad1ca/?vgnextoid=a2d9b5bbec622110VgnVCM10000032a71dacRCRD&vgnextcatid=10017&vgnextcat=90S%20REPLACEMENT%20PARTS&vgnextdiv=687630&vgnextpartno=300200&Wtky=&vgnextfmt=EN
Joel
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Stan,
I would not hesitate to buy any NAPA filter... Joel is correct on the 300200 pre-filter. I did not see the pre-filter in your picture, but could be located out of view.
Karl
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Do I need to change this pre-filter? Assuming I can find it. Today I went to NAPA and got all the filters I need for the C-9 and the Onan 8.0 KW generator, including a spare fuel filter just in case. I want to change the Hydro-Hot filter as well, but NAPA had no cross reference for that part #Racor R2TRA000T. The NAPA counter sales guy said their filters were WIX.
Thanks for the help all.
Stan
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Stan,
Yes, not sure which style filter you have but my Hydro-Hot filter is a WIX P/N 33583. The Baldwin BF1380 will work for either style, because you do not need to reuse of clear bowl, if you have that style filter.
Karl
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Stan,
The Racor 300200 pre-filter Is a clear plastic cylinder with a screen wire insert. You can look at the screen and see if there is anything in it that will restrict fuel flow. It will normally only clog if you have microbial growth (diesel algae) in your tank. So if you are running clean fuel (no sticks, leaves, or algae), the 300200 pre-filter does not need to be changed. On most coaches it will need to be serviced once or twice in the life of the coach, not yearly.
Gerald
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Racor R90T filters can be purchased from Green Marine and Industrial Equipment Co.
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Stan,
Yes, not sure which style filter you have but my Hydro-Hot filter is a WIX P/N 33583. The Baldwin BF1380 will work for either style, because you do not need to reuse of clear bowl, if you have that style filter.
Karl
Thank you for the information, Karl. I called NAPA, and they said WIX 33583 has a gaping hole in it where the water collector bowl attaches. They also said the Baldwin cross references to the same NAPA # as the WIX. Here is a picture of my Hydro-Hot filter. As you can see, it doesn't have a collector bowl. As soon as it stops raining, I'm going to twist if off enough so I can get a manufacturer's name and part #. These pictures were taken of inside the Hydro-Hot bay. I'm assuming its the only filter on that system, and its the one that needs to be changed annually.
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Hydro Hot Filter update. I was able to get the filter loose. Its a Gar-Ber Residential fuel oil filter. The only identifying number is an R. Its made by General Filter of Seattle. I went to their website. Appears to be a filter used on residential oil heating systems. I called Aqua Hot and talked to a service technician who said that filter is a 10 micron filter and is the correct one for my model. I went to the Aqua Hot web page and clicked on the ordering tab for "annual maintenance parts" and there was a picture of my filter! Problem solved. Thank you to all for the help!
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Stan,
The Racor 300200 pre-filter Is a clear plastic cylinder with a screen wire insert. You can look at the screen and see if there is anything in it that will restrict fuel flow. It will normally only clog if you have microbial growth (diesel algae) in your tank. So if you are running clean fuel (no sticks, leaves, or algae), the 300200 pre-filter does not need to be changed. On most coaches it will need to be serviced once or twice in the life of the coach, not yearly.
Gerald
The only reason I am intimately familiar with this unit is that mine cracked last year causing a fuel leak. As Gerald said this should be, hopefully, a once in ~10 years event.
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Stan-
It looks like your HH filter is in the same aggravating place in the bay as mine. Good luck getting it off without diesel going everywhere, to places really hard to access for cleanup. Find an old container of some kind that will fit back there underneath to catch the spills and drips, and use a paper towel or something with rubber or other gloves to spin the filter. Mine was a real b**** because it's so far back instead of up front like some owners are lucky to have; it was hard on my back reaching over the HH and trying to control the mess. And if you don't clean up every drop of diesel, the buscuit burner (with the sensitive nose) complains for days afterward, cuz diesel smell filters in through the slideout over the bay.
Overall, it was the most frustrating maintenance procedure I've done on the coach... if the filter placement was up front, probably not so much. The filter was a Racor R-12 or a CarQuest 86109.
Joel
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Stan-
It looks like your HH filter is in the same aggravating place in the bay as mine. Good luck getting it off without diesel going everywhere, to places really hard to access for cleanup. Find an old container of some kind that will fit back there underneath to catch the spills and drips, and use a paper towel or something with rubber or other gloves to spin the filter. Mine was a real b**** because it's so far back instead of up front like some owners are lucky to have; it was hard on my back reaching over the HH and trying to control the mess. And if you don't clean up every drop of diesel, the buscuit burner (with the sensitive nose) complains for days afterward, cuz diesel smell filters in through the slideout over the bay.
Overall, it was the most frustrating maintenance procedure I've done on the coach... if the filter placement was up front, probably not so much. The filter was a Racor R-12 or a CarQuest 86109.
Joel
It is. I'm 6-3, 225 lbs. I needed both hands in there to get a filter wrench on it, and I'm just too big. After a lot of huffing and puffing I finally got it loose. Of course diesel fuel dripping. I have the new filter now, and I'm sure glad this is just once a year! I ordered a new nozzle and some boiler antifreeze.
Thanks for the support from everyone here.
Stan
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Hey Guys
Just a little tip, when changing that filter, Just slip a gallon size plastic bag, over it , No leaks, of course be sure to clamp the fuel lines first.
have fun! 8)
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OK, Everyone
When changing your fuel filter, Here is what you need to avoid a big mess,
# 1, 2 Clamp off pliers for clamping the fuel lines, clamp both , that way you get the right one, #2, 2 gallon size plastic freezer bags, place one bag inside the other, that way no leaks, #,3 place bags over the filter after loosening,# 4 remove filter with bags over the filter(don't drop the filter), #5 lub gskt. Install new filter(no need to fill filter),#6 Remove (Both)clamp off pliers. #7 Turn on your A/H switch to prime filter, (Filter will be full when you hear the change in sound while the unit is running.
By the way, you will likely see the light on the switch go out, just turn it back on,
NOTE: Change filter BEFORE changing the Nozzle
Have a good day 8)
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Orman,
Are you going to be at Gillette? Either for the Energizer Beaver Rally or the Family Reunion? I would like to talk to you about my Hydro-Hot. Is that possible?
Thanks,
Stan
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Helllo Stan
Yes I will be in Gillette for the Energizer rally,
See you there,
Safe travels everyone
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Thank you, Orman.