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General Boards => Technical Support => Topic started by: Clinton n Mary Ann Anderson on July 20, 2015, 05:36:10 AM
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Well we're in Camp Verde Arizona and as soon as we conneted to city water we have lost all water pressure, both the pump and city water barely trickle. Filters?? Was working fine two hours earlier on the pump, but before city water. Any input is appreciated.
Mary Ann
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The first thing I would check is the hot and cold valves on the outside shower (the one in the water bay). Make sure they are completely off.
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Make sure you have not forgotten or inadvertently turn d on your tank fill switch if so equipped.
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Tank fill switch is off, outdoor shower/faucet is off. Looking at some older posts we're still guessing its filters. On the road now to purchase some. Thanks for the input guys ;)
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It would seem strange that the filters would plug up so rapidly and the plugging would have to happen while you were disconnected or the instant you were re-connected to a water source. Seems unlikely...
I would look at the inlet pressure regulator where you connect the hose to the coach. You could remove the 4 screws, pull it out and temporarily bypass it to see if that is the issue.
Consider pulling some hose connections to diagnose this problem. From the inlet I believe a hose travels over to the fill solenoid valve, possibly a filter/screen if you have one, and the outlet side of the water pump should all have pressure and flow when connected to an outside water source. If you have no flow or pressure there it would point back to the regulator or water feed hose between the two. From accessing the water pump area you should be able to find which waterline is the likely water feed that comes from the pressure regulator fitting on the panel.
Later Ed
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Hi Mary ann,
You mentioned that before you connected to city water, you had pump pressure inside the coach? Have you checked to see if you are getting water out of your city water hose before it connects to the coach? If there is, check to see if there is water pressure where your reel output connects to the output at your water pump plumbimg. (I believe you have access back behind the water bay thru the compartment just forward of it) I have also seen the brass pressure regulator come apart internally and block the water flow. If you're inclined, keep taking stuff apart until you find the restriction.
Regards, Fred
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One time I plugged up all the screens in my faucets, yes at the same time, with what looked like calcium.
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I wanted to throw this suggestion in just for giggles... Before hooking your water line up to someone else's water faucet - be it in a RV park, someone's home,... whatever - run a few gallons out onto the ground. Many times if a faucet has not been used in a week or two, or a month or two, then the water may be off-color due to rusty pipes or whatever. Let it run until it clears up... but at least a gallon or two before hooking up to it.
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There is always that inadvertent hitching of the hose to the black water tank flush fitting thinking that it was the water inlet.....it gets ugly though.
Later Ed
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That's what I was thinking, but he'd still have pump pressure, assuming there was some water in the tank from his last fill. I'd considered both the water tank dump switch and the tank fill switch were left on, but he'd have noticed the water running on the ground. Or somehow the manifold drains got opened or there's a major damaged line, but ditto... he'd see water under the coach.
Joel
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Ah.......Gotta love your replies, sounds like the voices of experience!
Livin the dream, Fred
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I wanted to throw this suggestion in just for giggles... Before hooking your water line up to someone else's water faucet - be it in a RV park, someone's home,... whatever - run a few gallons out onto the ground. Many times if a faucet has not been used in a week or two, or a month or two, then the water may be off-color due to rusty pipes or whatever. Let it run until it clears up... but at least a gallon or two before hooking up to it.
David, In Calif you will probably go to jail if caught by the water patrol for dumping water, just for giggles.
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Tank fill switch is off, outdoor shower/faucet is off. Looking at some older posts we're still guessing its filters. On the road now to purchase some. Thanks for the input guys ;)
Let us know what you find out to solve this problem.
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Lee - I have been patiently waiting for California to fall off into the ocean. It needs to happen soon. Just think - no more fires there. Then this past week the "experts" come out saying the PNW is terribly overdue for a massive earthquake that will destroy everything between the ocean and I5, and kill tens of thousands of people. Other than very close to the Eastern border of California - like Death Valley or Standish - you won't catch me with my coach in California. That's as close to California as I wish to be. Californians don't seem to want to go without water in their swimming pools. I doubt a couple gallons of water dumped on the ground for cleanliness reasons would cause much of a ruckess.
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There is always that inadvertent hitching of the hose to the black water tank flush fitting thinking that it was the water inlet.....it gets ugly though.
Later Ed
Ed's post brought back a fond memory of an incident I had back in 2007. As a technician, I was preparing to do a customer orientation on a used luxury coach. I accidently connected the city water hose to the black tank flusher. I had also ASSUMED that the black tank had been dumped and flushed by the technician who had inspected and performed the "Get Ready". Well anyway....about the time me and the new owner got to the water bay, the sewer vent cap blew off the roof and we all got a brown shower. I can't repeat what the customer said as we were in shock and breathless. Ever since then Fred is real cautious where he connects the city water hose!
Regards, Fred
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Fred,
I have yet to enjoy that experience but one could certainly see how that mistake is made.....I think by all rights Beaver should have put a huge caution sign over that water inlet.
There is probably a need for invention here, much like a car airbag arrangement. When the sensor of impending disaster in the vent pipe sees the brown brew heading for the roof, it then anticipates the creation the "Geyser Of Doom". Through the miracle of modern science it then blows open a settling pond bladder on the roof, sounds the "all hands leave the deck " voice alarm that enables at least a minute of escape time for us retirees. We do move slow...
I readily give up my patent rights to someone who has actually had the experience like yourself Fred :-)
Later Ed
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Sorry Guys,
I didn't really mean to take you down that "Rabbit Trail" it's Ed's comment that triggered it, sorry Ed....BTW the coach was an '04 American Eagle which uses a Sealand toilet. I could tell all sorts of horror stories but I don't believe it would edify any of us who are trying to help one another.
Regards, Fred
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Fred,
Perhaps off subject but your rabbit trail makes me feel much better. I purchased my third coach new in 2004 and shortly after arriving home I decided to fill the fresh water tank. Opened the water bay hooked up the hose and proceeded to fill the tank. My prior two coaches didn't have black rinse so not use to looking any farther than that one connection familiar to me as in the Safari Trek I traded. I had parked the new coach listing to the passenger side, but unlike you that spared me from the shower of water flowing from the roof vent. Water now off I proceeded to open the mid passenger door and damn near got washed off my feet. The Sealand toilet valve couldn't hold back the vent pressure and my new carpet was soaked in Theford Aqua Chem blue Only the slide carpet survived the flood.
Finally I am not the only one I know of that has embarssed one self filling the water tank. Today with over 40 years of RV'ing experience I read this tech forum religiously because I know what I know not.
Thanks to all.