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General Boards => Sources for Suppliers, Parts and Maintenance Materials => Topic started by: Steve Huber on September 09, 2015, 05:46:27 PM
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The coach we are getting has a Dometic NDA 1402 reefer with ice & water in the door. The ice bucket (one with an auger in it) is missing and not made anymore. Checked with normal parts sources and no joy. Does anyone know if there is a replacement bucket available?
Thx, Steve
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You might ask this fellow: AskDon@IceMakerRepairService.com
-Joel
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Of course you have thought of rvsalvage in eugene?
So, dont keep us in suspenders! What kind of coach are you getting?
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Also, is it possible to just eliminate the icemaker in the Dometic in favor of a new Uline ice maker installed somewhere?
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The aggravation for Steve (and potentially myself, and many others here, since I have the same fridge) is that the icemaker itself is common enough, probably Frigidaire-built for many home and RV models, but the auger and bucket (ice dispenser) part seems specific to the 1402. It's virtually unseen out there - I even had numbers off my dispenser/bin that don't show up online anywhere. I even saw an entire refurbished 1402 available, and it was missing the dispenser/bin.
-Joel
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I left one at Alliance in Florida when they installed my residential refer. Maybe it still out back somewhere.
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Check with Bend RV service Jeff may hove one or RV outfitters they often pull the old units to upgrage folks. Beaver Coach Sales may have one all of these folks do recyle so you may want to leave your info just in case one comes in
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All,
Thanks for the inputs. I'm at BCS and they said they've been unable to locate any at the normal RV parts outlets including NW Supply. I'll check out your inputs. If no joy, I'll remove the auger drive and just use a tub to catch the ice, but DW wants the ice in the door working so that will be a last resort.
We just traded the 2000 Marquis for a 2007 Contessa Bayshore 43 footer with a 400 hp C9. I'll miss the C12 but..
Steve
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Well, ice not withstanding. Congrats on the new coach!
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Ditto the congrats on the new Coach!!!!!!!!
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Left BCS today and put about 450 mile on the coach. While it's not the C12, the C9 is performing very well. It runs hotter (206 at flat cruise) but handled the mountain grades between Bend and Redding with no problems. Max temp reached was 215. So far we like it!
Steve
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Steve,
Could you have one made from Plexiglas or is it too complex? Congrats again and safe travels.
Later Ed
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If it's what I think, Ed, it's the tray and auger/crusher/dispenser mechanism as a unit, very much akin to one perhaps in your home ice/water dispensing fridge. It's much more than just a plastic tray.
Steve, glad to hear the C9 handles the 43 footer okay.
Joel
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Joel,
That's the one. Will look for it next week.
We got in last night, Coach performed very well. For a test I drove across Tehachapi pass between Bakersfield and Barstow CA. Elevation change of about 3800 ft and constant climb. Ambient outside temp was ~98-101F. Coach took it effortlessly in 3rd and 4th with engine temps running about 215. Peaked at 225 a couple of times on steep inclines but no check engine light. Got about 7.3+ mpg including generator usage on complete trip.
Steve
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Excellent. Do you have to mess with the diesel particulate additive stuff on it? I know our '06 was about the last year before the exhaust rules changed, and I'm thankful the engine was capable of handling low sulfur and didn't need the emissions mods. The C9 is a great engine; yours probably is one that is actually tested out at 425HP - Dave A. would know. At that length you might have to watch your carrying capacity, but it sounds like the coach is pretty capable as loaded. So you went from a compression brake to an exhaust brake, or did they put a Jake on that long chassis-ed C9?
Good luck finding the ice dispenser... out of curiosity because we have the same fridge (ice only, no water), I spent some time searching for one in case ours ever broke like the one in our GE here at home did. The icemaker is everywhere, a Frigidaire built unit I think. But the dispenser/bin seems specific to the 1402. I've admired our 1402 for its ability, lack of problems, capacity, and features over other models I've had and seen, and there's none of the issues that so many have with Norcolds in recent years. My only disappointment is they quit making it for some reason, so an essential part like this is apparently so suddenly rare. I'm hoping that fellow I posted a link to can offer some guidance for you.
-Joel
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You might try here: http://www.appliancepartspros.com/search.aspx?q=ice machine ice dispenser&apptype=refrigerator
The only numbers on it are 385 07 92 on the back of the front panel, and 385 07 89 on the back lip of the bucket. Keep in mind that mine dispenses ice but not water like slightly later models do. I would not think that affects the bucket assembly.
I am told we are looking for a Whirlpool/U-Line unit used in a residential fridge, but have no idea which brand or model to cross reference.
-Joel
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Joel,
Thx for the ice bucket info.
My engine is an 06 version w/o the DPF.
Steve
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That 385 part no. prefix, Steve, is on other refer parts too, including shelves, etc., so I don't know how annealed the bucket is to a Whirlpool or U-Line number.
-Joel
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Just curious what temp does the transmission run? Hope you enjoy your coach we have.
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Mike,
If memory serves me, it was running w/i 10 degrees of engine temp; lower when cruising and higher when climbing or traffic that required frequent gear changes.
Steve
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Steve-
The darned ice dispenser bucket is friggin' hard to find! One thing is there is more than one version of the 1402; is yours an NDA1402B? Some models came with dispensers and others with just buckets. I found a parts book for a 1402, but it doesn't have the dispenser, just a bucket: http://67.238.126.140/pdf/3309892.002.pdf page 7.
On another forum there's a fellow that took his bucket out in favor of Rubbermaid trays (don't ask me how that's gonna work), and seems to be leaning toward offering it if it will work for you. But we probably need to match models first to be sure. If yours has an actual in-the-door dispenser, it's likely a 1402B, and I'm not sure yet which model he has. I don't know if a plain bucket will fit in a B model due to its auger drive sticking out from the freezer back wall, and maybe other variables.
Here's some links another fellow offered, although I didn't see my bucket assembly:
http://www.repairclinic.com/Shop-For-Parts/c47/Ice-Maker-Parts
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ice+maker+bin
Joel
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Joel,
I found the parts list for the ice/water in door NDA-1402. If you want a copy let me know. Also found out from someone at Dometic that there is a replacement icemaker available for $170. Part# is 3313470.080. Again according to Dometic, the ice maker was supplied by Mid South Electric but they couldn't (wouldn't?) give me any added info. Lots of Mid South Electrics around but did find one that supplied ice makers but couldn't confirm Dometic as customer nor could they find icemaker or dispenser (#921148262) per the part numbers. Alliance RV FL hasn't returned my calls. After spending a couple hours on the search yesterday, I think I'll take a shot at Whirlpool and Frigidaire to see if they have a unit that looks similar. Maybe they will be a bit more helpful than Dometic.
Steve
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You bet, I could use the parts list, although mine dispenses ice and not water.
I don't understand why Dometic isn't more help locating the part; the fridge isn't that old a model. Didn't think they were related to Carefree. ??? And it shouldn't be $170 for just the bucket/auger assembly. When the bucket cracked on our home's 30c.ft. GE a few years back, GE sent me a new bucket/auger assembly for $35.
Joel
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RV/Boat prices are almost always 3 to 5 times home versions - that's why many people replace RV appliances with home versions. >:(