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General Boards => Sources for Suppliers, Parts and Maintenance Materials => Topic started by: Stan Simpson on October 27, 2015, 02:33:20 PM
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I think I have posted, and received the name of a supplier, in the past. I have searched and can't find it. I have a shower handle as pictured below in the first slide. The second slide is where it shows a brand name. I think it says B+K which is now a part of Mueller (brass) Industries.
To operate the shower, the current handle is moved UP to turn it on, and then right and left to control temperature. As soon as that dang lever is up, its subject to being moved at the slightest touch. I'm so tired of accidentally bumping it with a face full of soap suds and subsequently being almost scalded by a stream of very hot water!
I want to change it to the knob type, that pulls out and then can only move right or left to regulate temperature. If I accidentally bump it, it will only turn the water off. Does anyone have an idea where to get a B+K knob that will work on this single handle shower? Will any replacement knob from one of the big boxes work just as well?
Thanks for any ideas and suggestions.
Stan
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Bill and I had the same faucet and temperamental lever in our 2004 Beaver Monterey. While still under warranty, Beaver Coach Sales replaced it with a safer and easier to operate faucet such as was used in the Patriot models in the mid-2000's. Access to the plumbing was through the bedroom wall. It took a tech most of an afternoon to replace the faucet. I wish you luck. I remember the scalding.
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I just want to find a knob that will go on the faucet (the little thingy that sticks out of the wall) connection. Sounds like I may not be able to do that. Always shaking my head at some designs..what were they thinking?
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BJ's version of the story left out part of the fun. She explained we didn't like the valve, but we were not getting much traction with Beaver to get it "fixed". Desperate, I explained to the Warranty Service Manager, Tom Halter, where the valve was located on the wall and which of BJ's parts were most likely to run into the protruding valve handle when she turned around to rinse shampoo from her hair with her eyes closed. Clockwise would burn her, counterclockwise would freeze her. Some her best parts were exactly lined up with that valve handle!
I don't recall who blushed first or hardest, Tom or BJ. Tom got a valve from the Marquis inventory that was much better. It was a Delta with separate handles for temperature and volume.
Tom now owns and runs Advantage RV Repair in Bend. I've heard good reports from some of his customers!
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We have the same shower valve on our 04 Monterey. I dislike it as well.
Is there an access opening behind the mirror in bedroom wall?
I would consider replacing if there is access, not sure I want to remove mirror and also cut hole in wall.
Has anyone removed mirror to check for access to valve?
Thanks,
Darrell
04 Monterey
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We have the same shower valve on our 04 Monterey. I dislike it as well.
Is there an access opening behind the mirror in bedroom wall?
I would consider replacing if there is access, not sure I want to remove mirror and also cut hole in wall.
Has anyone removed mirror to check for access to valve?
Thanks,
Darrell
04 Monterey
Darrell,
On the '04 Monterey we used to own, that mirror came off. The primary attachment appeared to be the four metal clips at the corners. However, the "real" attachment was a lot of wide Velcro. Once I convinced the top metal clips to move upwards to release the mirror, the mirror peeled off. Behind the mirror, there was an access hole for the valve. It might be that ours had a hole there because Beaver replaced our valve under warranty. If you don't find a hole, it would be easy to cut one with one of those vibrating hole saws like a Rockwell Sonicrafter. There is obviously plumbing in there for the shower that you would not want to cut. There were no wires.
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HI I went to Home depot to get a shorter plastic. Kept bumping into the factory one... They had one in stock that fit perfectly. Danco I believe. Clear plastic surprisingly looks OK
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Jim,
Could you post a picture, please?
Thank you.
Stan
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Hi Here is the photo, It tightens the same as the factory handle but the hole is deeper in the handle that the factory. Consequently you need to make sure there is a touch of clearance between the handle and the valve. I think I paid about $9.00 for it . Was a stock item at Home depot. Let me know how you make out. Jim
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This is awesome, Jim. Thanks so much!! As soon as I get near a HD, I'm going shopping!
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Your welcome Just bring the old handle with you. They have a wall of them and it helps to compare how they connect.
Good luck!
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Jim,
I tried to take the existing shower handle off. Picture one shows it with the flange loose from the wall. The sleeve that has a red arrow pointing to it, turns. Is that something that unscrews to get the handle off? I turned it for quite some time. It didn't seem to be coming unscrewed. Picture 2 shows the handle in the off position, with the flange loose from the wall. (the flange does not come off the handle, the hole is too small) The flange doesn't come off over the handle, so I'm guessing it comes off the rear after the shaft is off. The red arrow is pointing to a slot of some sort. Perhaps I have to pry that to get the shaft off there. I don't want to break anything. Can you tell me how yours came off?
Thanks for any ideas.
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I'd be interested in how this replacement works out, since we have the same troublesome handle. Haven't attempted anything yet, so am curious also how you disassembled things, Jim. I'm guessing there's an Allen screw under the handle holding it on the valve shaft, and Stan hasn't noticed it yet, but I've not actually looked for one yet myself.
It would be an optimal solution, since behind my shower plumbing wall is kitchen tile and the microwave; perhaps not as accessible to the valve assembly as a mirror.
Joel
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Jim,
There is a set screw under the handle.
John
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Stan,
Sorry, I should have addressed the last post to you.
John
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Joel, Jim, John...
No set screw.. checked and re-checked.
On the bottom of the handle there is a blue and red Moen symbol. If that comes off (I don't know how) perhaps there is a set screw under there.
Thanks for the replies.
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Stan, it is common for Delta and Moen to cover handle Allen setscrews with their logo/icon plugs, though usually where it is particularly visible. Though underneath and not that visible here, if you do indeed see one, a fingernail or pocketknife blade may pop the plug/cap off.
Joel
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All,
Just goes to show you they didn't always use the same manufacture. Mine is stamped B&K and my Coach is a 2005 Montery Laguna III.
John
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All,
Just goes to show you they didn't always use the same manufacture. Mine is stamped B&K and my Coach is a 2005 Montery Laguna III.
John
Mine is stamped B & K too, but only on the face plate against the wall. The handle itself has a blue and red (I assume Moen) logo/icon on the underneath of the part that goes up and down and sideways to control the on and off and the hot and cold.
Stan
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Stan,
I'll bet you pop that logo off, you will find a set screw.
John
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Stan,
I'll bet you pop that logo off, you will find a set screw.
John
Popped it off with a box knife, and sure enough, a set screw under there. On my way to HD to see if I can find a different handle/knob.
Stan
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Let me know how you are making out. I "THINK" this is the one I purchased.
DANCO
Model # 88379
Internet # 203193833
Store SKU # 404344
Handle for Valley Kitchen and Bath Faucets
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Hi Here is the photo, It tightens the same as the factory handle but the hole is deeper in the handle that the factory. Consequently you need to make sure there is a touch of clearance between the handle and the valve. I think I paid about $9.00 for it . Was a stock item at Home depot. Let me know how you make out. Jim
Voila!!
Thanks so much, Jim Edwards and everyone who posted. No more accidental scaldings from bumping the old handle! :) :)
Edit: for some reason, pictures taken with iPhone show up here turned to the side (the handle is actually pointing down)
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Hi, Great. Can you verify the part number in my previous post in case someone else asks? Thanks Jim
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Hi, Great. Can you verify the part number in my previous post in case someone else asks? Thanks Jim
Jim,
The Home Depot Store SKU # 404344, that you posted is correct. The fellow at HD told me this # is universal for all HD stores.
Stan
P.S. While taking a shower this morning, I tested it by bumping it repeatedly, and was unable to accidentally, or on purpose, turn the handle to make the water hotter. Very satisfied.