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General Boards => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bob Jae on September 30, 2016, 01:47:19 AM
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Are there any truck stops along the Oregon Coast Hwy 101? We are near Lincoln City heading down to Seal Rock and would like to top off the tanks. A search on the internet is not turning up much. The stations we saw look pretty tight to get a coach and toad into. Hoping some of your Oregon folks would know where to fill up.
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Bob,
I live in Lincoln City and I always fuel up in the "valley" before coming home. Your best bet in Lincoln City heading South is the Shell station on the East side of Hwy 101 just South of City Hall and the Goodwill. It will require a left turn onto the hwy to continue South, but there is plenty of room around the pumps. If you are at the Casino, as you leave at the top of the hill at the Hwy 101 intersection is another Shell, much smaller layout, but it can be done since you will make a right directly into the pumps and another right out onto the Highway. Are you already South of LC?
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There are no truck stops on 101 on the Oregon Coast. Most trucks use Pacific Pride or CFN on the coast. I don't think there is any place to fuel up between the bridge in Newport and Seal Rock.
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Truck stops ? , no but there are plenty of fuel stations and lots of workers with pickup trucks and trailers that use fuel stations that can accommodate them as there are a bunch Since my onboard fuel can get me up and down the coast I normally don't fuel there mostly because the cost is higher.
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Grant we are in Neskowin until Tuesday Morning. Thanks. Planning to go out Route 20 after Seal Rock stay. We may have enough fuel on board but would like to take some on just to be sure.
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Bob,
I just checked and the only station in Lincoln City that currently has diesel is the Space Age station, west side of Hwy 101 just south of the D-river. You should be able to shoulder your way to the pump easy enough and it is easy on/off when going South on Hwy 101. The central Oregon Coast just isn't very friendly for diesel motorhomes low on fuel, but it is hard to beat for the nice scenery.
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Thanks Grant. We are enjoying the views.
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In Newport, the Chevron stations carry diesel but be aware that they only dispense on pumps 1 & 2. These are the inside pumps near the store front. The Chevron just a few blocks south of Walmart on the west side of 101 would be your best bet. There is another one just before you cross the bridge in Newport and it is also on the west side of 101 but it is smaller and looks to be a little harder to get in and out of.
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Thanks Chuck
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I just checked out the Space Age and fueled up our Honda CRV. They have B20 diesel. They actually suggested the Chevron up the road and so I pulled in there and they have #2 straight diesel. Hopefully we can pull in there tomorrow if they are not busy. Otherwise I will try in Newport. I may have enough but I never like to let it get too low.
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I have topped-off my fuel tank a couple times using a 5-gallon and 6-gallon gas can. When I go shopping I just fill them and drop the diesel in the coach's tank. When I am parked in a spot for several weeks, like we will be in the Foothills of Yuma in Nov and Dec, it's easier to fill the tank using the little gas cans than packing up the coach and driving to a service station. Between all the trips to Fry's, WalMart, Los Algodones, etc., we drive right by service stations with expensive diesel, cheap diesel, and, I suppose, all B-levels.
The biggest problem I have since becoming retired 15 1/2 years ago is getting enough exercise. Holding a 6-gallon gas can up to chest level while it empties is good exercise. Of course, 18 to 27 holes of golf four or five times per week is good exercise too.
Part of my point here is that if you had a gas can, then you could get a few gallons at a time to get you past the small service stations until you get back to the truck stop stations.
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Once again I find an opportunity to recommend Pioneer Fuel. There are plenty of Pacific Pride (and perhaps other outlets these days) with which Pioneer is affiliated scattered across the West, and especially Oregon and Washington. After going dead half way up a hill between Bandon and Coos Bay 15 years ago in our old Pace Arrow (because I thought I had a quarter tank but the hill changed all that), I was so embarrassed that I made it a point afterwards to look for fuel at half a tank or thereabouts.
I find it pretty difficult to get 200-300 miles from a Pacific Pride facility in Oregon, and they are almost always easy in, easy out, and the bulk of the time I'm the only machine of any kind in the station. When fuel may be reaching the half tank mark the next travel day, the night before I try to check their website for appropriate locations; it usually gives some description of the locale's orientation, access, and directions, so I know what I'm getting into well ahead of time. Pacific Pride used to issue an annual book of their locations, but during the recession there was such a surge of suppliers closing down, that the listings were all too often inaccurate. So I'm not certain they still publish that guide; more likely not now because so many new suppliers come on line so regularly that an annual book coudn't keep up anyway.
Their prices may not be posted at the pumps, but I've always found them competitive ultimately, so I quit fretting about that aspect; easy in, easy out was most important. They used to charge credit accounts, but a few years back they changed to an automatic first of the month withdrawal of whatever the previous month's cost was from our checking account. Since I record my fill-ups in a log, I can estimate what that amount will be and manage for it.
I've often filled up at Pacific Pride along the coast, and recall feeling secure from passing them often along 101.
Joel
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Thanks for all the tips and suggestions. I did get fueled up today at the Chevron in Lincoln City. We did not tow today and I did have to back up but plenty of room if there are not a lot of cars filling up. They sell straight #2 diesel. The Space Age station is B-20. So we should be all set now.
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Joel how does one sign up with Pioneer Fuels
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Generally in the state of Oregon one has to have a business and be able to prove it annually, and must use a minimum gallons of fuels annually to qualify for self-service fueling. Only Oregon and New Jersey do not allow the public to dispense fuels into their vehicles' tanks. I do not recall the annual minimum gallons required to be purchased in Oregon, but I think it's about 900 gallons.
I have both CFN and Pacific Pride cards. They rarely get used for various reasons, one being prices are not posted and another is prices in my experience are usually a bit higher. Why they're higher I have no idea.
I am required to submit a Schedule F from my tax filings and a listing of my fuel usage, both annually, to maintain access to the CFN and Pacific Pride fueling stations. This fuel usage, one summation, is for all fuels purchased in any and all states, not just the fuels dispensed using CFN and Pacific Pride cards.
My CFN and Pacific Pride cards are issued through Bend Oil Co., an owned subsidiary of Mid Columbia Producers. Inn any event, I would recommend getting a RVPlus Card from the Pilot-Flying J network. This card does not require much - only an adequate credit rating - and saves from 4c to 12c per gallon depending upon the station location and fuel type purchased.
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Thanks David I have had the RVPlus Card since they started, I think I will just stick with it.
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I differ from Dave in that my multiple negative experiences at Flying-J/Pilot outlets dictate that my incentives place greater value in the card-lock low-stress access, as well as the vastly larger outlet availability, even in diminutive communities off the beaten path. If I have to pay a few cents more for that, so be it; however I haven't found a significant difference in pricing - and in some instances Pacific Pride turned out to be lower than surrounding retail stations.
I've also noted in my travels that Sinclair stations are often large and uncrowded, and offer discounts to their registered patrons similar to Flying-J/Pilot. And if I was informed correctly earlier this summer, some if not all Sinclairs may now accept Pioneer Fuel Pride Advantage cards. This may have been negotiated to help fill in large swaths of the country that lacked Pacific Pride outlets but had plenty of Sinclairs. In fact, (if I was desperate) I believe Pilot is part of Pride Advantage now also.
Let me see if I can clarify some things for Oregon visitors -
Oregon law requires all diesel fuel sold to be at least 5% biodiesel. Biodiesel producers tried to get that bumped up to 10%, but failed, although municipalities such as Portland may dictate their own local minimum requirements. So yes, you certainly may still run in to outlets selling up to B20 here.
But to help us all out with that little issue...
In response to consumer complaints, in 2013 the legislature required that from 2014 on anything from 6% up cannot be displayed by street or pump signage to be #2 diesel fuel. People were driving into stations advertising "Diesel" out at the road or on the pump and getting B10, B15, or B20 fuel. Essentially the govt. defined what the term "Diesel" meant in this state; B5 yes, B6 and up no. So if you are traveling in Oregon and pull into a station that said "Diesel" at the road and it says the usual "#2 low sulfur diesel" on the pump, my interpretation is that by law that fuel cannot be the stuff we are worried about in this thread. http://biodieselmagazine.com/articles/159331/biodiesel-labeling-rule-clarified-to-oregon-motor-fuel-stations
From 2014 through 2019, B20 or higher fuel is exempt from the 30 cent state excise tax. This applies only to (1)vehicles 13 tons or less, (2)fuel at retail outlets, and (3)not fuel from cardlock, fleet, or bulk outlets. This would not affect most of us, but the subject has been broached here before, so I mention it. Regardless of whether anyone here's pocketbook might benefit, the affect on any diesel engine is nonetheless controversial.
Diesel blends may contain anti-gel additives between October 1st and February 28th. Some suppliers might not do this (it is not the law as I understand it), but most reputable ones such as Pacific Pride distributors/affiliates, and others, do.
As I interpret the rules as shown on the Secretary of State's site, the Oregon labeling requirements require that anything over 5% biodiesel be labeled as such on the dispenser near its top and visible clearly from a driver's position; ditto for winterizing/anti-gel additives (although I've yet to notice such a label - the P. Pride site I visited Monday may just not yet have placed it for this season).
Information regarding other states biodiesel information can be found here: http://www.afdc.energy.gov/laws/state
-Joel