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General Boards => Technical Support => Topic started by: Keith Moffett Co-Admin on May 04, 2019, 09:35:39 PM
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We have the 07 and our Aladdin system is not reading tanks well. Unless it is full the fresh tank reads empty. When full it reads 40 gallons.
The Grey tank reads 70% regardless.
The Black tank reads empty until it is half full. It will then read 10 gallons and later half. This is the Teckma brand with the buttons on the wall. If it suddenly turns red it wont flush at all.
The Aladdin manual says no recalibration is necessary and we are locked out of set up mode unless we take it to a shop.
Any suggestions? Other similar threads on this forum have suggested Silverleaf but not which version. Opinions?
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Have you tried the 'Aladdin Reset' switch? Mine is above driver's head. You might find the tank module, mine is on pass side in compartment ahead of drive axle. Might pull the RJ-11 connectors in and out of the jacks on the module a few times. As for being locked out, in the Aladdin manual, there is a 'code' that should let you in, unless someone has changed it and not documented the change. I don't think I would attempt a re-cal, as you have to empty then refill your tanks. I had the tank module fail two summers ago; dealer in Ore where we bought the coach replaced the module (used) under our extended warranty. Instead of calibrating the sensors, the apes just drilled a hole high up on the tank and waited till water ran out. When I was told that.......! We did look into the Silverleaf option; About $5K to replicate all the Aladdin functions. When my ship comes in!
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If the rest of your Aladdin system is working ok, why not look at the See Level tank monitor system? https://www.garnetinstruments.com/product/709p3-seelevel-tank-monitor/
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Keith,
Somewhere I still have an Aladdin book with the universal code. Are you sure you are locked out?
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I think the code is 1218?
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Bill Lampkin, the reset is only in case of system siezing and needing a reboot ....right? That is what the manual says but isnt specific about what that means. Did you use it and was it successful?
Bill Sprague, I was told at BCS when we bought this coach that the Aladdin worked fine and they strongly suggested all owners stey out of 'Set Up mode' because it is easily messed up. The manual suggests the same thing. I would want to know alot more before trying it.
Joel, thanks but are all models the same code?
Interestingly I did find the modules and the one for the tanks and did disconnect the phone cables. The module is talking to the monitor but giving bad info. Perhaps a new module?
Silverleaf is great but 5K is over my head too. My ship would need to come in with a load of lottery tickets! LOL
Thanks all
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Keith, I've done the reboot using the switch a couple of times, didn't do anything bad, nor did it fix anything. As for getting into the 'set up' mode, no tricks there either; I did check the gas tank level and corrected that value, all still works. Just gotta pay attention, and, write down the existing value/configuration before you change anything. The factory code is the same for all Aladdin, unless someone has changed it. Replacement tank modules are not available, you have to go to an RV salvage yard. Wouldn't you know it, I can't remember where I found my replacement module. New tank sensors are still available.
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Just want to add my vote to Roy’s for the See Level system. I had it installed at Gillette last summer when my Aladdin tank sensors started spreading lies. Although the See level system can be connected to your Aladdin display, I opted to go with the Bluetooth connection to my iPhone, which is a lot more convenient. The system also has a button display that replaced my Aladdin display in the service bay. It has worked flawlessly since installation.
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If you need tank sensors BCS may have them. Another source is CATCON Products Inc. Their part number is 500-10050-07.
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See if Visone has used modules on hand https://rvparts.visonerv.com/cgi-bin/f/search.pl?
It may be that someone can repair modules.
Try https://mastertechrv.com/
or https://modulemaster.com/rebuilds/abs-modules/
But it sounds to me more like the issue is simply with several plugged or mineralized sensors. A bad module typically provides only dashed lines onscreen. BCS replaced our black sensor easy enough, but sensors can be behind difficult to remove panels or otherwise be hard to access. A SeeLevel option is a valid one and gets around the future plugged sensor problem, but making sure current Catcon ones never sit dry or in an unflushed tank is good preventive maintenance.
Catcons sense the weight/pressure of liquid above them, but “stuff” can interfere with that accuracy if it dries and adheres inside the device’s port.
https://www.shop.catconproducts.com/MicroPulse-Level-Sensor-part-500-10050-07-500-10050-07.htm;jsessionid=BF3B3415707C3591DF9C1E80E786E17B.p3plqscsfapp001
I’m not sure they can be rejuvenated by removal and cleaning, as that’s not an option I’ve heard of. For what they are they’re not cheap, so shop around.
Joel
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We have the 07 and our Aladdin system is not reading tanks well. Unless it is full the fresh tank reads empty. When full it reads 40 gallons.
The Grey tank reads 70% regardless.
The Black tank reads empty until it is half full. It will then read 10 gallons and later half. This is the Teckma brand with the buttons on the wall. If it suddenly turns red it wont flush at all.
The Aladdin manual says no recalibration is necessary and we are locked out of set up mode unless we take it to a shop.
Any suggestions? Other similar threads on this forum have suggested Silverleaf but not which version. Opinions?
I had bad tank sensors (Aladdin system) and got replacements here. https://www.catconproducts.com/RV-sensor.html
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Mike
The sensor on the link you mentioned looks right. I guess I could try and hope for a good result. What symptoms did you see prior to replacement?
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My Fresh Water tank was reading something like 20% (some number) regardless of how much actual water was in the tank.
My Gray tank always read empty. I swapped the cables at the Aladdin sensor module between Gray and Black to be sure the problem was not in the wiring or with the module. Once I determined the problem was the sensors, I bought two (all tanks uses the same sensor) and installed. Everything reads correctly now.
BTW - this is the sensor Joel linked to in his post - so he was first :)
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I have a 2006 Monterey. The Aladdin monitor has become very dim. How can I restore its original brightness?
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Just want to add my vote to Roy’s for the See Level system. I had it installed at Gillette last summer when my Aladdin tank sensors started spreading lies. Although the See level system can be connected to your Aladdin display, I opted to go with the Bluetooth connection to my iPhone, which is a lot more convenient. The system also has a button display that replaced my Aladdin display in the service bay. It has worked flawlessly since installation.
A second vote from me. Had ours installed at Gillette in 2014, so 5 years ago. Has performed flawlessly. We opted for the one that interfaces with the Aladdin.
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I have a 2006 Monterey. The Aladdin monitor has become very dim. How can I restore its original brightness?
The monitor is a separate component from the Aladdin (it is not made/provided by Aladdin). I assume you have already gone through the screen adjustment settings for the monitor.
The Aladdin just feeds a video signal to the monitor (which can be a Sony or Kenwood or anything else).
It is possible that something is wrong with the "video out" signal from the Aladdin, but more likely the monitor is just going. Many have replaced their in-dash monitors with new monitors (you just need a monitor with RCA input jack that accepts NTSC/PAL input).
I know of a few that have replaced their in-dash stereo/monitors - this was one example that worked https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-3400NEX-Display-Single-Din-Receiver/dp/B07D3NVPGF/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtr_mBRDeARIsALfBZA6aPHhDISi6BAHt_kVkNSF0f2i_qlMPsD1yXGOQ46B166c2-M7icDoaAnpAEALw_wcB&hvadid=323129062218&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9011795&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=3844097862634684817&hvtargid=kwd-488664372443&hydadcr=19055_10827175&keywords=pioneer+avh3400nex&qid=1557149797&s=gateway&sr=8-1
but there are much less expensive options if you just wanted a video monitor and don't care about all the other stuff (radio, CD control, GPS, etc.)
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Hey Mike, you are just full of helpful info. Thanks
We have this same issue with the Kenwood. Do you know anyone with this installed?
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There is a thread on the IRV2 forum with all the info.
I can't post a link here but you can go to that forum, search in the Monaco section, for "Aladdin" and should not be too hard to find. There are probably a few here that have done the same - so maybe they will come along shortly and be able to provide some additional info too.
I know some have added a second monitor (just a video only monitor) for the Aladdin so they can see their backup camera full time and only use the in-dash receiver for entertainment.
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I have the same kenwood and split the camera feed at the Aladdin input to a cheap monitor from amazon. You can run the new fed to the monitor down the drivers door post with a fish tape. Now I can watch the backup camera full time and keep the system monitoring on the kenwood. This only works if you have the 1 camera system.
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Mike, Joel and George
If you replaced sensors with the Catcon sensors did you have to relearn the Aladdin after or did the new sensor just work?
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Mike, Joel and George
If you replaced sensors with the Catcon sensors did you have to relearn the Aladdin after or did the new sensor just work?
No adjustment or calibration needed. The sensor is a direct replacement for the original. All the calibrations are in the Aladdin, and do not need to be touched.
Getting to the sensors to replace them is the hard part.
Good luck.
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When replacing the sensors the tank must be empty. To be safe I raise the left side of the coach after draining the tank. With the new sensor installed the tank should read zero. At this point I fill the tank with fresh water and calibrate if it isn’t showing 100%. Drain the tank and verify it reads empty. Be sure you level the coach before calibrating. As mentioned earlier the sensors may not have to be calibrated but the pilot side of me says to err on the side of caution. Just getting to them is a pain.
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For future reference, I ordered sensors from Catcon.
3 new sensors installed today and the Aladdin is reading close to right again.
Thanks again George and Joel for the suggestion!