Author Topic: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis  (Read 26783 times)

Richard Cooper

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Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« on: June 05, 2012, 11:46:13 PM »
I am a new member and not yet proficient in using the search of this forum.

Which tires should I install on my 2001 Beaver Marquis 40JSP?  Currently have 7 year old TOYO's.  I am now 150 miles away from my coach on storage elsewhere.  Thus, cannot tell you what is on the coach now.  But there are 6 wheels.

I am a member of Monaco International as well as BAC (FMCA).  It seems I would get better pricing on Michelin's through Monaco than through FMCA.  Isn't this correct?

I called around and priced the TOYO replacement tires and they cost almost as much as Michelin's.   Should I go with Michelin's?  What is the model number of the Michelin's I should seek?

I want to replace all 6 tires this month.  Your help will be appreciated.

Edward Buker

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 12:04:43 AM »
I have XZA2 Energy Michelins on my 2002 Marquis and have been happy with them. Bridgestone also makes a tire that owners have been happy with.

Later Ed

Richard Cooper

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 12:08:55 AM »
Can you give me the full set of numbers from the tire?

Edward Buker

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 12:31:45 AM »

Joel Weiss

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 12:50:43 AM »
I am driving on Michelin XZE2+ which I think handle and ride better than the XZA2's we used to have.  I bought mine through the Monaco International program.  I found it to be about 10% cheaper than the FMCA program.

Gerald Farris

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 03:14:55 AM »
The 2001 Marquis came with 12R22.5 Toyo tires as original equipment. However since Toyo no longer supports their tires for RV applications, almost no one uses Toyo tires for replacement.

The most popular size tire for replacement on your coach is a 295/80/22.5. The reason for using this size is for the increased load capacity. If you chose to stay with the 12R22.5 tires the only one approved for RV use by Michelin is the XZE, and it has a maximum load capacity of 7390 pounds in single fitment. However the 295/80/22.5 comes only in the XZA 2 Energy for RV use, and it has a maximum load capacity of 7830 pounds in single fitment.

The first question that you need to answer before buying tires is how much does your coach weigh when it is loaded the way that you normally travel? I run 295/80/22.5 tires on my 2000 Marquis (that originally had 11R22.5 Toyo tires) because of the extra load capacity that I badly needed.

Gerald  

Richard Cooper

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 03:52:30 AM »
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The first question that you need to answer before buying tires is how much does your coach weigh when it is loaded the way that you normally travel? I run 295/80/22.5 tires on my 2000 Marquis (that originally had 11R22.5 Toyo tires) because of the extra load capacity that I badly needed.

I don't know how much it weighs.  I have the same furniture that came with it.  I don't think I have a lot of weight in the basement.  I may have a half to 3/4 tank of water, may have 3/4 tank of diesel.  I don't have an extra freezer in the basement.  Usually it's only me traveling and I weigh less than 200 lbs.   What are you carrying that weighs so much that you need special tires?

Richard Cooper

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 04:09:58 AM »
Quote from: Gerald Farris
The 2001 Marquis came with 12R22.5 Toyo tires as original equipment. However since Toyo no longer supports their tires for RV applications, almost no one uses Toyo tires for replacement.

The most popular size tire for replacement on your coach is a 295/80/22.5. The reason for using this size is for the increased load capacity. If you chose to stay with the 12R22.5 tires the only one approved for RV use by Michelin is the XZE, and it has a maximum load capacity of 7390 pounds in single fitment. However the 295/80/22.5 comes only in the XZA 2 Energy for RV use, and it has a maximum load capacity of 7830 pounds in single fitment.

Gerald  

Monaco Club quotes as of 10/3/11 for Michelin 76807 XZA2NRG 295/80R22.5 XZA2 ENER 152M(Load Range H) (LH STEER) = Price+FET $605.04

Is this the preferable tire for the 2001 Beaver Marquis 40JSP?



Gerald Farris

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 05:30:23 AM »
Richard,
Yes that is the tire (295/80/22.5 XZA 2) that I would run, however you need to make the decision about what tire is best for you. I would also recommend that you should run 120 PSI in the tires until you weigh the coach to determine the correct pressure

I am a fulltimer, so I carry a lot of personal stuff as well as my tools in the basement, however with 11R22.5 tires most 2000 Marquis coaches were overloaded, as the owners discover when they weigh their coach.

Gerald

Edward Buker

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 05:44:39 AM »
Richard,

These coaches by design are heavy and some come in over the axle weight spec when loaded. Add to that the issue that the side with the big slide is heavier by approximately 1000lbs so it is not a completly balanced load side to side. Certainly the 12R 22.5 Toyo tires were not adequate and many of these tires were run over the tire weight spec rating. That also happened on some Country Coaches running those same Toyos.

There has been good experience with both the XZA2 Energy and a Bridgestone tire that if you are interested Gerald would be a good source for info. For the money with the programs available I would not hesitate to buy the Michelin XZA2 Energy tire given the weight capacity is adequate for the coach with a little to spare. Joel mentioned the XZE2+ also which could be a good choice but I am not that familiar with that model. When you ask for the preferable tire I am not sure that anyone here can give you a definitive answer. It is a matter of choice and all we can do is give our experience about the tires we have owned.

My choice to run the XZA2Energy was based on the fact that they fit the wheel well and rim on my coach, the tire had a little excess weight capacity, in discussing that tire with Michelin reliability engineers, it had one of the lowest failure rates of the tires that they offered. It offers a little better rolling resistance and should give you 1 to 2% better mileage. They ride well and I have not had any abnormal wear issues like rivering etc. Some owners of Goodyear tires have had issues with abnormal wear and they seem to have a design flaw that causes that. The only downside of the Michelin tires was the cost in the past and the programs that are available have mitigated that to a great extent. Hope this helps.

Later Ed

Richard Cooper

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 09:02:50 AM »
I sure wish I was located in a sales tax free state such as Oregon.  Wouldn't have to live there to buy there, but it's the getting there that is the problem.  I would feel better getting there if my tires were dependable.  So I guess I will have to cough up an extra 7% Georgia and local sales tax over and above the Monaco price + FET.  Then there's balancing, etc. --- these tires are expensive.  I hear China is to blames for running the prices up $200/tire over last 2-3 years with their buying.

Robert Mathis

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 02:33:09 PM »
Richard, I just replaced all 8 of my tires with 295/80R 22.5 Michelins. I bought them thru the Monaco International program and saved a considerable amount of money. I had Goodyears before and was generally satisfied with them, but the Michelins seem to ride more smoothly and a little quieter. If your tires are 7 years old, you definately need to replace them or risk a blowout.

Dick Simonis

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 11:51:19 PM »
You might want to at least take a look at the Hankook tires.  Great rep at a very good price.

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 02:10:49 AM »
I have Hankook tires in 275/70R22.5 AH12 and they are very good.  Better ride and handling then the Toyos.  Two years ago they were just under $2,000 installed, balanced with new stems.  Several other have switched to Hankook in the 12R22.5 size.  Have not heard of any complaints.
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Richard Cooper

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Re: Tires for 2001 Beaver 40JSP Marquis
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2012, 06:36:03 AM »
I've heard that 2 years ago the Michelins were priced $200+ per tire less than now.  

I recently priced Toyo's to replace the Toyo's on it now and they were close to the same price as the Monaco International Club price direct from Michelin.  

I will feel confident with Michelin on my coach.