TROUBLE WITH FUELING

[John Hennessey]

When we pull into the Truck side of a Loves or Flying J to fuel every time we put the nozzle in and try to pump even at the lowest bar the fuel burps out until we hold the nozzle with our hands an slow the fuel delivery down.  Our truck doesn't do that so I am wondering if anyone else has the same issue and has figured out how to fix it.  We have a 45 foot 2003 Marquis and with the toad alot of places just don't have the maneuvering room to get us in and out so we go where the semis fuel up.

[Marty and Suzie Schenck]

My 2002 Thunder is the same. I found that at most truck stops at the truck lanes there is at least 1 pump that has the smaller fuel nozzle. If I use that nozzle at my right side fuel fill, it will take fuel faster and I don't have to hold the nozzle. Marty

[Jeremy Parrett]

I have the same issues. It  has to do with the diesel tank breather hose not relieving   pressure caused by air in the tank being displaced by the incoming diesel.  If I take off the opposite side fuel filler cap to relieve the  pressure I can fill in quick time. Your co pilot must watch the other fill VERY  closely .As soon as you hear gurgling stop filling and put that cap back on. Then continue to  top up slowly .
Dont blame me if you blow diesel all over the road !!

[Richard And Babs Ames]

We tried the beavermarquis way one time and blew diesel as he mentioned. We get a better flow rate on the right side but have opted to not try the both cap off routine any more.

[Jeremy Parrett]

Here is a link to prevous submissions on this subject : http://forum.bacrallies.com/m-1316786053/s-0/highlight-fueling/#num0
 Gerald is right. Removing both filler caps is NOT recommended.  
 Removing the tank to re install the filler hose conections  near the tank top and enlarging the vent at the same time might be the only solution. Problem is you might have to remove the entire front suspension and axle to remove  the tank. !!! :-/

[Gerald Farris]

John,
All of the Marquis and most of the Patriot and Monterey coaches of that era have the slow fill rate issue. With the location of the fuel tank, multiple restrictive bends in the filler hose, and a small vent system, it would be very difficult to increase the fill rate any substantial amount. This issue was corrected when Monaco moved the fuel tank from the undercarriage to the basement and did away with the long filler hoses.

The idea that Jeremy posted about removing the opposing fuel cap can be very dangerous if the opposite side is not monitored because the fuel fillers are not always the same height, and therefore fuel can run out the opposite side while you are filling and cause a fire hazard.  

Gerald

[Bill Sprague]

According to my Aladdin, I've put over 10,000 gallons in, I haven't spilled but a few drops and I haven't started any fires!

I don't think it is back pressure.  My theory is that Beaver put a tight elbow in the fuel fill line that won't allow the high rate the nozzles to work.  Yes, I'm suggesting another Beaver design flaw caused by a batch of engineers that never spent a day using a Beaver!  I think they did it just so I would get frustrated at fueling time.

Being an impatient person, I do normally fuel both sides where the option exists.  I put the nozzle in only far enough for the lip to catch and hold on the Beaver's filler neck.  I put both nozzles on the first click.  It is amazing to watch the $$$ meter spin.

Some nozzles won't go slow enough on the first click.  So, I cut some small triangles out of 1/4 inch plywood.  I can wedge them in under the squeeze lever and get any flow I want.  The $$$ meter still spins at an alarming rate.

I keep the triangles in the red slot intended for the fuel cap on the inside of the fuel fill door where they are handy.  

Now, if I can get Flying J to have a motorhome express payment line where I don't have to wait behind the drivers buying HoJos and chips!

[Jerry Carr]

They sure fixed the issue on the 06 thunders some time I will use a pump on both sides we normally use the truck stops because of the speed to fill.

[Bill Sprague]

They sure fixed the issue on the 06 thunders some time I will use a pump on both sides we normally use the truck stops because of the speed to fill.

Yes, isn't amazing how fast those Thunders can spend $500 with an empty tank!  Mine is limited to about $375 because my tank is so "tiny" and I can hear BJ saying "Isn't that enough to get there?"

[Joel Weiss]

I have the same problem, but I think I've adapted to being a retired, full-timer----I just don't care if it takes a bit longer to fill the tank.     My hands can hold the nozzle even if it can't reach the first detent.  The extra few minutes it takes to fuel aren't all that important and the truckers themselves don't seem to be in such a hurry so no one cares if I'm slow.  In the past I would have stressed over this, but those feelings are long gone.

[Keith Oliver]

HoJos?  Guess you have to weigh in like a trucker to know what those are?

[Bill Sprague]

HoJos?  Guess you have to weigh in like a trucker to know what those are?

They might be made out of chicken.  Maybe potatoes.  Maybe it's a blend.

[Bill Sprague]

...My hands can hold the nozzle even if it can't reach the first detent.  The extra few minutes it takes to fuel aren't all that important ...

That's the moment I remember what they had to do fix the prostate cancer and I have to pee real bad!  Those "extra few minutes" can be a significant hurdle!

[Butch Martin]

You can always buy a coach like Jerry's and solve the slow fill problem....
I still open both caps to fill
I use my pocket knife to adjust the flow if the first detent is too fast.
The $ meter still goes too much faster than the gallon meter.
Now if we exchanged the diesel engine for a steam engine, the coach would run on water.....

Butch