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Larry Dedrick

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Fuel smell in Coach
« on: March 19, 2018, 03:50:43 PM »
Hi all,
We have recently had a fuel smell in the coach after running the Diesel Burner. We have noticed it before but only if we had a window open or a vent fan on. It’s been really cold out so we have the place all closed up. Larry is thinking we may have a leak in the aguahot exhaust system so will be checking it out as soon as it warms up a bit. Has anyone else had this happen and where should we check first?
Thanks,
Laura

Gerald Farris

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 04:33:49 PM »
Laura,
There are multiple location that could be the cause of your diesel smell when the Aqua Hot burner is on. The first place to check the Webasto burner itself for a leak (fuel pump, fuel shut off solenoid, or line). The next thing is to check the exhaust for smoke (incomplete combustion) that could indicate the need for service (nozzle, filter, or fuel pressure adjustment). Also check the exhaust pipe for leaks under the coach.

Gerald

Larry Dedrick

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 12:20:29 AM »
Thanks for your input Gerald.
   to clarify the odor, it is an exhaust odor from the Aqua Hot. I have inspected the exhaust fittings and pipe and there is no sign of a leak. The cover to the Aqua Hot was removed and when the Burner was running, there was a definite odor coming from the 9:00 to 12:00 o'clock position of the burner. There is, as it appears in my opinion, staining from an exhaust leak around this same position, but the staining does not wipe away as soot would, but is a black stain non the less. The Aqua Hot was serviced last year in Chandler, and I brought this stain marking to the attention of the tech because it looks like a leak from the fuel being burned and he just dismissed it. I do believe there is a leak at the burner in the described 9 to 12 o'clock position. So my interest is, is there a seal between the burner/motor and the chamber to which it mounts. I have looked at a parts breakdown and what I found was a Plate Manifold, could this serve as a seal. Any knowledge would be appreciated.

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 12:01:57 PM »
Larry
Sounds a bit like back pressure on a grommet.  Could be a bad grommet or perhaps partially blocked exhaust? 
Did the fella in Chandler even know to check the grommets?

Gerald, food for thought here.  What say you?
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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 02:32:25 PM »
Larry,

Marty had one leaking fuel from the internal fuel pump.  He wanted to rebuild it himself.  For a helper he got Jay who is an A&P!  I shot the video.  If it helps, you can watch the 35 minute video here:  https://vimeo.com/67970941   Fast play is a good choice!

If in fact is is the fuel pump leaking, there is no other fix.  Call Marty.  Maybe he can tell you how if figured out what was leaking.

Bill
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Larry Dedrick

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2018, 02:46:10 PM »
Ok we found the issue. Seems like when we had it serviced last year in Chandler when they replaced the housing on the burner they crimped the fuel solinoid wires in the housing. This caused air to seep in keeping the burner from running efficiently and diesel to pool in the bottom of the burner also allowing fumes to escape. Having it serviced at one of those big rallies is probably not such a good idea as they are rushing to service as many as possible and you may not be getting the level of service they would normally provide. Just our opinion of course as this was done by a highly recommended technician that has serviced many of our coaches.

Thank,
Laura
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Bill Sprague

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 06:12:37 PM »
I thought I had heard of every Hydro/AquaHot issue.  Yours is a first!

Doug Allman

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2018, 01:08:29 PM »
Bill,  Just helped Rick Mayer with his hydro hot while in Texas. His is on his 1993 Grand Marquis and only supplies the heat to the coach, not domestic hot water.
Had an Aqua Hot tech service it. Tech left it as he could not figure out why it would not run but charged him the $130.00 fee.
Rick kept insisting that with no air coming from the exhaust pipe it could not run. After removing exhaust pipe, which was clear, we started on motor parts. Long story, the internal fan was rotating freely (pushed with screw driver) but did not turn with power on. All other components seem to test ok, high limit, brain box, etc.
Aqua Hot tech says replace the fan clutch. Rick ordered parts and has but I was leaving so he is waiting until Gillette to get Aqua Hot tech to install.
He will be at our rally in the Black Hills and I am going to try to repair there as we will be there 3 days ahead of rally start.
And I as you thought I knew or heard a lot about Aqua Hot's not working.

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Gerald Farris

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Re: Fuel smell in Coach
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2018, 02:33:47 PM »
Doug,
Normally, if the fan clutch breaks on the Webasto burner, it is because the fan bearings are starting to fail and have too much resistance. So be careful to check the two fan bearings if you replace the clutch.

Gerald