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Brad Burgess

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Mud Flap/Rock Guard
« on: January 30, 2011, 07:44:30 PM »
Hello All

Our new to us 03 Monterey has a badly damaged rear mud flap/rock guard.  I was planning on replacing it at Dura-flap in Grants Pass.  However, I have recently read on several other motor home boards that folks have removed the rear flap with the result being slightly (very) better fuel mileage, some had better engine cooling and it was recommended by several to remove the flap if going to Alaska as the flap has a tendency to kick up more stones.  Our flap is only about one and one half inches above the ground when the coach is at normal ride height and I have already noticed some additional chips on the toad.  Have any other Beaver owners eliminated the flap and if so, what has your experience been?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Brad Burgess
03 Monterey #800460

Joel Ashley

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Re: Mud Flap/Rock Guard
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 09:52:40 PM »
Brad-

If there is any pickup in fuel mileage with removal of the mudflap, it likely pales in comparison to the resulting toad repair costs.  The mudflap doesn't completely protect your toad, but certainly helps.  Rocks bounce at speed, and passing vehicles can shower your toad (and coach) from the side;  the proof is in the chips in my coach's front cap, and the replacement of both coach and toad windshields, after a long trip over a gravelled winter highway shared with sugar beet trucks in a hurry.

Our mudflap gets beat up too, probably more than most.  Shorter rigs like yours and mine have short driveshafts.  That means the coach can't be allowed to raise as high in the back as 40+ footers, or there is risk of damage to the drive system from the shaft's steep angle while turning.  The coach manufacturer therefore installs limiting straps to keep the back end down;  our coach at full lift moves up 4 inches in the front but only 2 inches in the back, for example.  The consequence of this is that at full lift, everything at the very back bottom of the rig may be actually levered lower at full lift than in travel mode.  So when you lift the coach to clear some rise or object on the ground, or more often a dipped driveway entrance, the mudflap can get caught between the ground and the hitch, scratching and/or bending it.  I've learned to guess when I've lifted about 2 inches, and try to hold it there.

Dumping air at a campsite or to get under something overhead can trap the flap underneath also, if there is a slight ground rise under it.  The flap's hang chain's mounts have done their share of damage to our flap as a result.  Nevertheless, to answer your question, I wouldn't remove my mudflap, as I believe it intercepts its share of bouncing undercarriage gravel, and I've managed to repair it with less hassle and expense than the toad.  I added a Roadmaster guard to the toad's towbar mount as additional protection, and new dings to the front of the toad stopped.

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Re: Mud Flap/Rock Guard
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 12:34:31 AM »
Brad

    I tried raising it then moving it forward some then further back Then we  bought a replacement flap from Dura-flap in Grants Pass and damaged it from all the same reasons. But nothing I did pervented it from eventual damage.  So we removed ours. Now we have added flaps directly behind each wheel.  I cut the beaver emblem off each large flap so I had four to mount at each wheel. We installed the Roadmaster rock guard between coach and car and are very satisfied.
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Brad Burgess

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Re: Mud Flap/Rock Guard
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 05:13:39 PM »
Hello All

I would like to thank everyone that has responded to this question.  Based on the responses here and on another board I have decided to try using the coach without the rear mud flap.  We just purchased a new Ford Edge as the toad so I am also going to install the rock shield option from Roadmaster.

Thanks again,

Brad Burgess
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Re: Mud Flap/Rock Guard
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 05:31:53 PM »
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We just purchased a new Ford Edge as the toad ......
Good choice!  My dear wife bought an '07 in '08.  First trip was from Virgina Beach to the Seattle area.  It now has about 30,000 miles as a toad with no issues.

The Edge is a great, no hassle toad with a back seat big enough for your friends to be comfortable.  The complex AWD is amazing in ice and snow.  

I did kill the battery on the first big trip.  The '07 manual was not very clear about what to do with the key.  I learned I was not getting it all the way off after putting it in neutral.  Be sure to rotate the key fully counter clockwise as far as it goes.  

We have the full length standard (and fully abused) Beaver flap.  We had the front of the Edge covered with the 3M clear plastic.  We have had no motorhome induced rock damage on the Edge at all.   We didn't have any on the Subaru we pulled for 50,000 miles either.