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Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2014, 06:50:01 PM »
OK so I called BCS. I had all my questions ready for them about the tv/sat. and questions about the carefree awning over the door and where to recharge the dash air conditioner.  He didn't have any good answers for me.  He did tell me that there is not a sat cable going to the bedroom tv and that there are several wires in the roof so to be careful where we drilled. No coax in the roof though.  I am quite confused as the wires are in the cabinet for satellite.  He said it wouldn't work with the new systems though.  I am going to try to see if I can pass through an old direct tv reciever and if that doesn't work we will just leave the dish mobile and pass the wire through the window.  I will post my question on the awning seperate. Thanks again :) :-/

Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2014, 11:57:50 PM »
OK so I called BCS and found out there is not a coax in the roof for the dish.  They also told me that I couldn't get sat. on the bedroom tv.  They were wrong.  I took the vcr in the bedroom back out and studied the cables that were hooked to it.  There were two sets of rca video cables, one in and one out so I looked to see what colors the in one was and then went back to the front cabinet and found the other end of it and hooked it into my sat. reciever and low and behold sat. in the bedroom! :)  Then I didn't have another rca out from the reciever to go to the vcr with surround sound so I called the local guitar center and they ordered a RCA to USB cable for me so I can connect the sat receiver to the vcr for the sound.  Still not sure about where to mount the dish as BCS said there are lots of wires in the roof and no extra support for the dish.   We are wondering if we should drill a hole for the coax  from the inside the front cabinet to avoid hitting other wires. Do you think it would be ok that the wire run on top of the roof a short distance to the dish or is that a bad idea.  There are three feet that have 3 screws each to hold it plus the goop that seals everything.  Doesn't seem like much to hold it down in high wind traveling but I assume the goop helps glue  it as well.  Your input is greatly appreciated!  Pam

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 01:09:37 AM »
Justin, Pam,
See pictures. The cables/ control wires to my dome run through a hole cut in the roof inside the TV cabinet above the driver. Cable is secured to the roof with clamps and  all is sealed with Dicor. We get no wind noise etc. Works very well.
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Edward Buker

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2014, 04:03:03 AM »
Justin,

The VIP 211Z is a Dish HD receiver. You mention a dish that is stationary but mountable but did not mention what it was.

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Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2014, 04:09:10 PM »
It is a winegaurd pathway x1. Thanks for the photos that helps a lot.  The dish is a winegaurd pathway x1.
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Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2014, 04:12:39 PM »
Trying to get photo small enough to send. Hopefully this works.

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2014, 05:02:03 PM »
Justin,
There is a guide to resizing photos for the forum. It's a "sticky" in the General Discussion area of the Members Only section.
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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2014, 05:36:57 PM »
Just a side comment for you to think about.  With a portable, you will most always be able to locate it in a position where you can get reception whenever you are parked.  Many times trees block the dish and you are unable to get a signal when camped.  On the other hand, if you want music or something when going down the road, you need it mounted.  Personally, I would opt for Sirius if I wanted music while driving.
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Bill Sprague

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2014, 06:15:21 PM »
When ours was new, we bought a KVH dome.  The installers put it in the front above the TV locations.  There was a clearly marked decal on the middle of the roof that said there was antenna cable under the fiberglass.  Apparantly, Beaver thought the dome should be in the middle, not the front.  

I asked the installer why he didn't use the factory location.  His answer was that the factory installed cable was not always of the highest quality and TV performance was better and more maintainable if they ran their own wiring.  

I'll also agree that domes are only for those that want in motion.  The "dish" under a dome will be small and dew, rain or bugs on the dome can sometimes be a challenge.  

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2014, 06:41:08 PM »
Justin,

The newer dome dish units are not as antiquated as some might think and are a good solution for many. They have the advantage of possibly being used as both a fixed and a portable unit at the same time, with a little thought, and they do a great job at handling Dish HD programming. The LNB amp/converters have gotten so effective that small dishes are becoming quite capable. Part of the reason is that they can be housed in small domes with steep slopes that shed water much better that would have diminished signals in the past. The larger traveler non domed series has several advantages and that would be my first choice if I had just a fixed roof unit. The signal strength in heavier rain is able to hold signal longer than the portables.  

We tend to stay in campgrounds that have some shade from the trees and it can be for extended periods. We have a carry out that was adapted to go from a roof mount to a ground mount and we really like this option. While it is not perfect it is a good compromise for us.

One possibility to consider is a ladder mount shelf system with the ability to be released. In open campsites you would have it mounted at the roof level off the ladder to the side and if you end up staying in a site "shaded" from a clear satellite view it could go on the ground with an extended cable set that allows you to have a satellite view. This option also allows you to have the ability to bring the cable down the ladder with Velcro straps and then routed into the back of the motorhome and mount the receiver in the back bedroom. From there you need to move the HDMI signal to the living room set which is another problem to be solved. In my case I used two Cat 5 cables and routed them to the living room and used amplified Baluns to convert to and from the HDMI format.

I have posted some photos and info on the forum of these projects. This may be all Greek to you and everyone has different skills, priorities, and energy levels. This note is just to let you know that it is possible to have both a fixed and portable dish install, HD TV from Dish Network from a small domed dish, and full HDMI signals for your main TV but it is a significant project with some obstacles to overcome.

If you find that all of this is more than you want to deal with then I would find a skilled installer of RV dishes and get the unit roof mounted as close to the optimum wire routing location of the Dish 211 Receiver. They should be able to fish new cable through the roof to the receiver.

Later Ed

Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2014, 07:35:09 PM »
Thank you so much!  I think we will have it mounted in the middle at the front cause the window cable connection did not work. It has to be has to be straight from the receiver to the dish to power the dish.  There are no marks on the roof anywhere for the wire end I just hope  the dicor and screwed are enough to hold it up there.

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2014, 07:43:29 PM »
The Dicor will hold, just use some under the metal tabs as well as lap it over once screwed down.

Later Ed

Justin Youngren

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Re: Dish installation
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 08:20:41 PM »
Ok thanks we will be sure  to do that. :)