120 volt electrical problem

[Richard Anderson]

I have searched the forum and couldn't find this exact problem so here goes.  Last night I lost all electrical to the 120 volt lights and outlets on the starboard side of my coach.  I am hooked up to 50 amp and have a Magnum 2800 inverter.  Everything on the port side works fine and all 12 volt lights work throughout the coach on both sides.  Breakers in the bedroom closet are good.  I looked at the inverter and couldn't find any breakers.  The Magnum manual says there are two breakers on the side of the Inverter, but if they are present, they are not where the manual says they are and I don't see any. GFCI breaker in the bathroom is good.  None of the other non-working outlets are GFCI.  Am I missing a breaker somewhere else on the coach?

[Brad Burgess]

Hi Richard

Check the outlet in the lower storage bay - mine was a GFI outlet and it had tripped - it was on the passenger side.

Brad Burgess

[Jerry Emert]

Hi Richard

Check the outlet in the lower storage bay - mine was a GFI outlet and it had tripped - it was on the passenger side.

Brad Burgess

X2, I also have a GFCI in the Stbd side cargo bay just forward of rear wheels above the water pump.

[Edward Buker]

Also AC breakers in a small grey box are usually on the ceiling of the storage bay. Flip each one off and back on.

Later Ed

[Bill Sprague]

Hi Richard

Check the outlet in the lower storage bay - mine was a GFI outlet and it had tripped - it was on the passenger side.

Brad Burgess

Mine seemed to like to trip frequently when it was dark, cold or rainy.  Sometimes all three.  I decided I feared going out in the dark more than electrocution.  So, I replaced it with an old fashioned, standard outlet.  No issues since!

Now that I think about it, my grandparents, parents and even my kids (up to when they were in school) survived well without the damned things!

[Richard Anderson]

The GFCI in the storage bay was a good idea, but unfortunately, it has not been tripped.  I couldn't find a breaker box on the ceiling of any of my storage bays.  I don't know where else to look.  I am going to go through the owner's manual more carefully to see if I can find a location of another breaker box.  If anyone has any other ideas, please comment.  Thanks.

[Brad Burgess]

Hi Richard

My 03 Seacliff had a breaker box in the storage bay where the inverter is located.  The outlets would have their breaker in that box as they would be on the inverter circuit.

Brad Burgess

[Karl Welhart]

Richard,

If you follow the output AC wires from the inverter/charger to a breaker box.  Your problem is likely to be that something hit the breakers on that sub-panel.  It would happen on my 2002 Patriot all the time.  Mine where located on the ceiling of the basement on the PS just in front of the holding tanks.


Karl

[Richard Anderson]

I could not find a breaker box in any of the storage bays on either side.  There is a metal box in the driver side bay where the inverter is that is labeled "transfer switch."  I know what the transfer switch does, but is it possible there are breakers inside that box?  I didn't open it because it is screwed closed and the box is humming.  I figured I would at least disconnect shore power before opening that box but I thought I would ask here first.

[Jerry Emert]

I could not find a breaker box in any of the storage bays on either side.  There is a metal box in the driver side bay where the inverter is that is labeled "transfer switch."  I know what the transfer switch does, but is it possible there are breakers inside that box?  I didn't open it because it is screwed closed and the box is humming.  I figured I would at least disconnect shore power before opening that box but I thought I would ask here first.

Nothing in my transfer switch except two big relays and wires.

[Randy Perry]

My 2000 watt inverter has (2) breakers on it! I would double check it again!

[John Bagwell]

I had the same thing recently on my 2001 Monterey.  The GFI,  under the top bathroom cabinet was tripped.  Others we found were in the kitchen.  

[David T. Richelderfer]

On my coach's starboard side (in the kitchen) I find several 110v receptacles.  There are at least five 110v receptacles, two of them are GFCI receptacles, all found in the kitchen.  That tells me there are at least two GFCI-guarded circuits in my coach's kitchen.  The convection/microwave is plugged into one of the GFCI receptacles found in an upper cabinet.  I assume that GFCI receptacle is on its own GFCI circuit because of the power demand of the convection/microwave, but I do not know that for sure.  Under the convection/microwave facing downward towards the kitchen countertop is the other GFCI receptacle.  I assume that receptacle is one of four receptacles residing on the second GFCI-guarded circuit.  Of these four receptacles, three are not GFCI receptacles, but are on the GFCI-guarded circuit.

When a GFCI receptacle has kicked out, then all the receptacles on that GFCI-guarded circuit do not receive power.

When I first owned this coach I had an event where my living room TV and all the receptacles on the port side in the living room and the receptacles in the bathroom had no power.  Had I hair I would have pulled it out.  I looked high and low.  I had my little LED light and was looking for whatever might be the cause.  I finally found it.  The GFCI receptacle for that whole circuit from the TV way up front, and down the left side to and including the bathroom was located under the bathroom countertop almost out of sight for anyone except a dwarf.  But there it was, a GFCI receptacle that had tripped.  When reset, the whole circuit came back to life and the game was back on TV! Those GFCI receptacles are not colored differently, nor branded in any way.  They simply have two very small and very hard to see buttons.

Keep looking, my friend.

[Richard Anderson]

First of all, I want to thank everyone for taking the time to reply to my issue.  I have looked at every outlet I can find.  There are two GFCI outlets that are not working on the passenger side, one, in the bathroom under the medicine cabinet and one in the basement storage.  I have repeatedly pressed the reset button on both.  There are several other outlets that are not working, but none are GFCI.  All other outlets are working. I have looked everywhere for a sub-panel and can't find one and there is not one in the 120 volt wiring diagram in the owner's manual.  I have checked the inverter and in the spot where the manual says there are 2 pop-out breakers are instead two round metal plugs, so I am assuming my model does not have the breakers.  I am out of ideas, so I guess the next step is to take it in to a service dept.  I am planning on having the MH serviced at the end of the month, so I will wait until then to have someone check it out.  I will report here in a few weeks what they find.  Thanks again everyone!

[George H. Wall]

Richard, GFCI outlets do go bad, there is info on this forum on replacing with better ones, which I have done. These are available @ Lowes or Home Depot. No more problems with cut outs or electricity @ the most inopportune times.  Henry