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Motorhomes and Tow Cars / Re: 2003 Patriot Thunder Lexington
« Last post by Michael Turnipseed on November 02, 2025, 03:34:54 AM »
Sorry I didn’t see this until now, as I said in the post in my rural area downloading pics is difficult.
Text or PM if still interested.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on November 01, 2025, 06:26:28 PM »
Thanks Steve. That picture helps tremendously. It’s just snapped on to the posts.
I have a wire tracer and will trouble shoot with it next week when I get back home.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Steve Huber on November 01, 2025, 05:25:15 PM »
To just check functionality you can check for continuity between pin 30 of RL30 and VCB-11 (low beam) or VCB-12 (high beam). However you want to check for an  added wire(s), you need to get access to the switch or use a wire toner/tracer. I found mine invaluable in tracing wires in our coach. They are available on Amazon for around $30 and up. If I remember correctly the dimmer switch was on the turn signal stalk. The attached may help. 
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on November 01, 2025, 06:16:06 AM »
Roger,
Looks like the PO really messed up the wiring from the looks of his DRL hack. Best bet seems to be to continue to see if you can locate cause of the low beam short as we've been discussing. Once that is resolved you should be able to straighten out the remaining mess.
Steve

Yeah it’s the story of my life with this rig and the wiring. At least it’s just one circuit to figure out where the compromise is.
That being said any clue on how I remove the column surround, so I can at least access the dimmer switch and wiring to check those out??

Thanks for the continued help.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Steve Huber on November 01, 2025, 03:14:22 AM »
Roger,
Looks like the PO really messed up the wiring from the looks of his DRL hack. Best bet seems to be to continue to see if you can locate cause of the low beam short as we've been discussing. Once that is resolved you should be able to straighten out the remaining mess.
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on October 31, 2025, 10:19:03 PM »
Hey Steve,
Here’s the DRL connector. I assume this was factory install.
The other pic is the make shift headlight and wire pin connectors. Which I’m not sure if those flat pin connectors are factory or not as the headlights are after market.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on October 30, 2025, 04:20:10 AM »
Here’s some pics of the wires from the steering column to the P6 connector.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on October 30, 2025, 04:08:30 AM »
Where did the "unused" DRL connector come from? Is it the OEM unit or one added by the PO? The DRL relay is 20, above VCC in the lower right section of the PCB.

It looks factory. I'll take a pic tomorrow.
I'm trying to get pics of the wires and numbering uploaded after I get them resized to be able to view on this page.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Steve Huber on October 30, 2025, 02:26:38 AM »
Where did the "unused" DRL connector come from? Is it the OEM unit or one added by the PO? The DRL relay is 20, above VCC in the lower right section of the PCB.
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Technical Support / Re: Steering Column Cover removal
« Last post by Roger Milne on October 30, 2025, 02:06:10 AM »
Roger,
Suggest a different and maybe simpler approach. Remove both low beam bulbs and the DRL relay and see if fuse still blows. If it does, short is between dimmer switch low beam output and bulbs or DRL relay. If not replace components one at a time to see which path causes the short.
I'm assuming you've removed the wire added by the PO and repaired the wiring so you have a single wire running from the low beam output of the dimmer switch to VCB-11. That should take the steering column /smart wheel out of the problem'
BTW where are you getting the wire #s  you listed as I don't see them on SM-211 or 380850026.
Steve

I'll disconnect the low beam bulb connectors, and I'll see where the DRL relay is and remove that. Just so I mention it, there is a DRL connector on the firewall in the front headlight/ Generator bay. The PO had removed the original headlamp units and replaced them with after market ones. I only know this because I have an un-used DRL connector hanging in the front bay area and the headlamp units are secured to the headlamp hole by custom made brackets.
The "so called" tapped in wire, I did remove it and remade the connection to the one plug connector #68 wire from the steering column, so as I said earlier I thought it would be a simple remove the T and splice back to single wire. BUT it's that wire when I turn on Lo beam that causes fuse #69 to blow. I have it disconnected currently until I trace where that wire goes from harness to headlights and what's in between is the problem ( I believe ).

As for the wiring numbers. That's the numbers printed on the wires coming off the column. The connector ( I assumed was P6 ) then goes off into the madness under the dash, BUT with the printed wire description, hence, why I labeled them as such in the post. I have NO clue what those numbers mean, which is why I was attempting pull deeper into the column wiring to see if I could identify them.
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