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Edward Buker

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Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« on: October 25, 2014, 03:20:20 PM »
I thought I might post all of the repairs, including my latest problem, that I have made on my Aqua Hot in the last 5 years in case others run into the same issues. Format will be symptoms and repairs. Although I like having the unit and the comfort it gives, it would seem that I have to keep a watchful eye on it. It reminds me of one of those old 2 cycle outboards that would run just long enough to get you out there but not always back :-)

Leaking cap- replaced. I went to a 7 lb cap to reduce stress on the system.
Leaking overflow tubing-replaced with silicone tubing.
Cracked burner flame sensor - replaced.
Burner would intermittently not fire up- Used 12V battery on the bench to fire the ignition coil 50 times. Failed to fire once, replaced.
Burner motor would not shut down after flame cut out, some up and down in RPM- replaced silver box controller and relocated to outside
Leaking stand pipe solder joint where cap receiver and steel pipe meet-replaced with silicone hose, clamps, and aluminum cap receiver.
Replaced button thermostats that fire the electric element preventatively, they had not failed (yet).
Leaking drain valve-replaced with 90 degree brass ball valve.
Leaking pex pipe coupling at a circulator pump valve- Cracked fitting, replaces with hose elbow and constant tension clamps.
Leaking cracked elbows on engine preheat loop- This is the latest fail that I am detailing below...

I noticed a small amount of red engine coolant on the left side piping between the circulator pump and the housing for the main tank. There is a union there and I tightened it just a bit thinking that was probably the source and all was well until this year. When I got home this fall and parked the MH I saw a wet area on the cement under the Aquahot around the drain valve outlet. I removed the covers and there was several cups worth of engine coolant in the base area under the burner. I sopped that up and wiped things down and noticed that the copper elbows that make the transition between the horizontal copper run and the vertical run up to the tank inlet points both had minute cracks in them right at the center of the bend. These elbows are formed with a very sharp bend and are not what I am used to using. The line without the pump in it had the worst crack. It is a classic stress fatigue fail caused by vibration. I spoke with Roger Berke and before I was able to tell him the source, he said "cracks at the elbows". So this is yet another weak point to keep an eye on. Each time I get a fail, my goal is to never have to travel the same route twice if there is a better way. My plan is to replace these copper elbows with silicone ones and constant tension clamps to allow some flex without forming stress cracks. The O.D. of 1/2 inch copper is 5/8" and silicone elbows are available for that size ID. I will post the fix photos when I am finished. The photo below is of the fail point on one side. For now I have the feed hoses pinched off and a foam ear plug tie wrapped to the copper elbow crack point to slow it down. I am down at least a quart of coolant. This is a fail that if it got bad enough, could give you trouble on the road.

Later Ed
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Steve Huber

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Re: Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 01:17:40 AM »
Never could figure out why they switched from Hurricane to Aqua Hot. For the $ invested in repairs, seems one could install a Comfort Hot with the Hurricane and be $ ahead.
Go figure..
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Dick Simonis

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Re: Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 01:33:31 AM »
Yep, ours with the comfort hot was about perfect.  Now I have an Aqua-hot and reading threads with trepidation.  Whoever gets our old PT off the BCS Lot will be happy.

Edward Buker

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Re: Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 03:21:23 PM »
My Aqua Hot unit had the burner controller issues, the cracked sensor, and the ignition coil issue before I bought it. I was able to take care of those issues, that were the expensive ones, under warranty less a deductible So it was not too painful.

The other items have been minor expenses but if I had to have this work done then it would get pricey. I think I have had more issues then most and it is the luck of the draw on these units if they will be trouble. Mine ran flawlessly all summer with some diesel burner use until we noticed this leak after getting home.  I have not had to revisit any past repair with one exception, the stand pipe. I first ordered a new brass radiator cap receiver to replace the leaking one. It is a steel to brass solder joint with no brass flange to surround the steel outer pipe diameter, the cap receiver is literally set on top and soldered. That repair lasted about 6 months and the antifreeze started to seep between the steel to lead tin solder interface under pressure. Terrible design given there is such a poor mechanical bond of solder to steel. If you get this leak Roger Berke now has a kit with the silicone hose, constant tension clamps, and aluminum cap receiver parts like what I used. It is a far better way to go to seal this joint.

I keep thinking we will get there and have all the bugs out eventually...time will tell. Repairs seem to be less frequent so that is a good sign. I have not owned a Comfort Hot but simpler is better most of the time if it will do the job...

Later Ed

Gerald Farris

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Re: Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 03:49:51 PM »
Dick,
It is possible to add a Comfort Hot to an Aqua Hot system if you want more 120 volt heating capability (I know someone who heats their small stick built house with a Comfort Hot by chancing the heating elements to 240 volt units). However, since the Aqua Hot uses multiple circulation pumps, it will be a more complicated installation.

Gerald  

Dick Simonis

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Re: Aqua Hot 100-02S Challenges
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 04:16:19 PM »
Quote from: Gerald Farris
Dick,
It is possible to add a Comfort Hot to an Aqua Hot system if you want more 120 volt heating capability. However, since the Aqua Hot uses multiple circulation pumps, it will be a more complicated installation.

Gerald  

When I had the comfort hot installed, Jim did mention that possibility but, on the other hand even with one heating element in the Aqua-hot I'm pleased with it's performance just concerned about the complexity compared to the Hurricane system.  On the way south we had several occasions where the temp dropped into the mid to high 40's and it was fine heating one zone and supplying hot water for occasional use.  Anything more than that required the burner.  Pat forgot to turn it on one morning before hopping into the shower....that didn't happen again.

So far I'm happy it's just that we got so used to the Hurricane there are some adaption issue.  Of course unlike the Hurricane a problem with the AH also means no hot water which wasn't an issue with the Hurricane separate HW heater.