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Joel Ashley

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Re: Engine will not start
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 09:10:02 PM »
Like on most vehicles the smaller wire(s) going to the solenoid are from the ignition, Mike, and when energized they close (unite) the large contacts inside the solenoid that allows high current flow to the starter motor.  If the solenoid clicked when the ignition is turned on, but there's no engine cranking, than as Gerald suggests there is likely a corroded or loose large wire that's resisting adequate current flow from the chassis batteries to the starter motor.

If you have a voltmeter, you could see if the large wire into the motor does get juice when the ignition is activated... black meter probe to a clean unpainted metal chassis bolt, red probe to the wire's starter large wire mount.  But just because you may see voltage doesn't mean the connection isn't poor and too resistant to enough current flow.  Commonly there is no matching large black ground wire because ground is achieved via the starter's mounting bolts alone.

I'm an overly cautious guy, and would at least turn off the chassis battery switch, if not also remove the battery ground cable, before crawling under there to loosen nuts.  The large wire means high current that if shorted via a wrench, or already internally, could arc substantially;  you don't want that in your face under there when you go to loosen nuts to remove wires for any cleaning and retightening.

Joel
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Gerald Farris

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Re: Engine will not start
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2016, 06:04:01 AM »
Mike,
The top large terminal on the starter solenoid is a hot 12 volt positive battery cable. So to prevent arcing from a shorted cable, you should remove the chassis battery ground cable before trying to remove it. The other large battery cable location on the starter is a ground cable.

I do not know why you are going to remove these cables until you at least check the voltage drop across the connections. You need to know where the problem is at before you can know how to properly repair it. You can spend days cleaning connections and never fix the problem.

Gerald   

Mike Groves

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Re: Engine will not start
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2016, 12:30:29 PM »
Gerald and Joel,

I wrote a note to Joel last evening but before I could send it my internet went flakey in the park.

What I'd written was that there is no way I am going to be working on this starter. I am just too insurance poor and therefore am quite careful in anything I do lest I suffer the effects of an emergency at a hospital.  Gerald, I did check the voltage on as you indicated the 12 V hot on the solenoid to the ground on the starter and it was at 13V.

That's the end of what I'll do though I did spray some brake cleaner up there and wipe off the terminals.  They actually looked pretty good already so if this problem continues, then I see as my next step to have a shop pull, test, place back the starter.

Mike